I totally agree with Satyakam Garg, and am glad he has mentioned it. It's the
corruption of the engineers and contractors in India, not DMRC! Life in India is
cheap!

Best Regards



Mac LAL



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--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Satyakam Garg <satyakamgarg@...> wrote:

From: Satyakam Garg <satyakamgarg@...>
Subject: RE: [delhimetro] Re: New accident on Metro
To: delhimetro@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 1:34 PM

















Why DMRC is the target? DMRC is a client and it is in reality the wrong

practices and loose attitude of Engineers from design and build side who

must be held accountable. In India responsibility is not pinned down that is

the problem. Mr. Shreedharan for a gentleman he is, has still taken as this

as his failure to control and resigned. But what about basics? Method

statements for work execution are to be prepared and followed by the

contractor. Any approval as per the contracts does not absolve the

contractor of his responsibilities. Such contractors must be shown the place

they deserve - the jail like in UAE.



When we did the Delhi Metros first underground station we were proud design

and build contractors to have a ISO certification for health and safety with

a good overall record. This was also a feather in DMRC's cap.



In Dubai where we are doing a metro project - in a case like this nobody

blames the client but the contractor is held responsible and punished for

negligence.



There is no difference in degrees or individual capabilities in Delhi or

Dubai - but somehow perfection by the engineers seems to be ruled by their

attention to the work due to consequences they may face.



The further toppling of the cranes on accident site proves the hurry and bad

calculations for a work to be carried thru a proper method statement. Even

the deaths of innocent public was not able to teach a lesson to erring

contractor.



Satyakam Garg



Architect, Dubai



From: delhimetro@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:delhimetro@yahoogro ups.com] On

Behalf Of Shashi Verma

Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 5:15 PM

To: delhimetro@yahoogro ups.com

Subject: [delhimetro] Re: New accident on Metro



Ashish



What this timeline shows is an organisation where safety is not really a

serious concern. There are many practices followed here that would be very

questionable - cranes overswinging over heavy traffic, site perimeters being

very tight resulting in heavy machinery being operated through heavy

traffic, etc. When I was in India in December I was struck that there was a

crane backing up without any lights or human guidance right on to a major

road in Noida during the night time, this too just round a corner where it

was barely visible. This is not a sign of an organisation that takes safety

seriously. We've also had previous incidents of maintenance workers being

struck by trains in service.



With all due respect to Mr. Sreedharan (and he very rightly deserves it),

this organisation needs a renewed focus on the basics. My sense is that they

have gotten carried away with all the public adulation and the quality of

the work has suffered as a result.



Perhaps some other group members could comment on this - the preparation for

the Commonwealth Games seems to be behind in many areas. Certainly, on the

bus side they are much further behind compared to where they should have

been.



Shashi



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