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They both walked in with CINAHL print-outs, looking for very sophisticated
biotech/med journals in our public library.

The student Friday attends community college here (8 miles away) and
didn't understand why we couldn't set up proxy server for her on one of
the library machines, to get article text, if we didn't have the high-end
medical journals in our collection? But she was glad to learn the
excellent! hospital library..4 miles away...allows the public access to
their collection.

The student this morning is doing distance learning with school in another
state. She was aware there were probably remote databases but didn't know
how to connect to them. Printed off the 3pp list of what her school
offers and explained how to connect from home. Told her about the
hospital library, too.
Both got our business card, our remote services page, carte blanche
invitation to use our e-ref service, quick overview of EBSCO HealthSource
Academic/Nursing .. but/and encouragement to use the rich resources their
schools offer.

And the college student who came in later this morning needed lit
crit..showed him CLC, MLA, etc.
Have we made academic libraries overwhelming imponderables?! How much VR
time is being spent coaching patrons through the basics of what's
available to them?

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Morris County Library (NJ)
http://www.mclib.info

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They both walked in with CINAHL print-outs, looking for very sophisticated biotech/med journals in our public library. The student Friday attends community...
Sara Weissman
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Feb 28, 2005
10:55 pm

Sara, academic libraries aren't a piece of cake that's for sure. What's even more for sure is that it's difficult to get the information out to every distance...
Frank, Ilene
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Feb 28, 2005
11:39 pm

... learners shouldn't approach you for help? Do you feel that the home institution library has failed the student who chooses to come to a public library for...
Sara Weissman
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Mar 1, 2005
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Having worked at both public and academic libraries I have to go out on a limb here and say that I think public libraries (and librarians) generally speaking ...
Laura Kortz
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Mar 1, 2005
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Sorry to only share some more anecdotal information here, but I have had a very negative experience in regards to a public librarian and distance education. I...
Kristina Womack
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Mar 1, 2005
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That's not just at public libraries! I worked at the university reference desk while in library school, and we had a standing policy of not helping students...
Rudy Leon
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Mar 1, 2005
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This is also in response to the critique about public librarians, and the writer's intent never to contact a public librarian again. What if you end up working...
Nora Wikoff
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Mar 1, 2005
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Never ask a public librarian a question related to your studies again? Wow, that seems like a fairly drastic response to one negative experience. As a public...
Holly Sammons
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Mar 1, 2005
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I would like to share an opposite kind of experience of a positive nature about a township public library from my youth. It was an ongoing experience. The...
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Mar 2, 2005
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Kristina, it seems a shame that you have cut off contact with all public librarians due to the actions of one. Not every public librarian would have responded...
Susan Barb
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Mar 1, 2005
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It is not quite that drastic, that I "have cut off contact with all public librarians due to the actions of one". Of course I still use my public library for...
Kristina Womack
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Mar 1, 2005
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Ms Frank, We (public library staff) like Distance Learners as much as we like our other learners. From my perspective all learners are from the same distance:...
Nathan Parker
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Mar 1, 2005
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Hi, As an academic librarian, I really must jump in here. I think I understand what Laura is talking about, but it really doesn't match my experience in 3...
Ann Grafstein
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Mar 1, 2005
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This just happened to me this morning. A student in our library skills class came up asking for help with a question that could be answered in one of five...
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Mar 1, 2005
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As someone who teaches the intro to reference course (for Simmons GSLIS), I *do* want librarians to help my students. I would expect a specific kind of help...
Stephanie Willen Brown
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Mar 1, 2005
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... Perhaps ask student "what type of tool do you think might answer this?" ..take her to shelves and indicate a range of books and say "you may find what you...
Sara Weissman
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Mar 1, 2005
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Yeah ... that would be okay ... as long as you let go of that wing at the earliest possible moment after the lightbulb goes on. --On Tuesday, March 01, 2005...
Matthew R. Marsteller
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Mar 2, 2005
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As someone that teaches reference (we call it "Information Sources and Services"), I'd be a little tweaked-off if I knew a student was bugging for help....
Matthew R. Marsteller
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Mar 1, 2005
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When I first started library school, I too was a bit surprised that the reference librarians at my university library would not answer any questions about my...
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Hello All: Any member of an academic library is invited to participate in this online survey entitled An Online Survey of Academic Librarians Whose Libraries...
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Mar 1, 2005
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As a student I was told that I was not suppose to ask the librarians for help, that the expectation was I had the materials and discussion from class and that...
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This is an interesting comment. I am very happy to hear (well actually read) you say that you think it is important to help students needing assistance in...
David P. Dillard
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I heard similar stories at the academic library where I went to library school. Some of my classmates were flatly refused service because they were library...
Tim Schreiber
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Mar 1, 2005
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I have to disagree with the statement, "It is not a librarian's job to police WHY someone needs information-- and frankly, it's none of our business, either."...
Michele Mizejewski
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Mar 1, 2005
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MS Womack et.al. The position taken by many public libraries does not permit us to distinguish why you ask your question. Distance learners are no different...
Nathan Parker
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Mar 1, 2005
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I'm am MLIS candidate at the U of Alberta. I'm finding this debate a bit bemusing. Our library and school are separate entities, but have a close working...
TerryRomaniuk
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Mar 1, 2005
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Sara, Thanks for posting this and for the resulting discussion. As a public librarian I have been disturbed that local and distance ed students hadn't been...
Sarah Haman
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Mar 2, 2005
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I've found that a key factor in increasing college student consultation with their "home" librarians is the endorsement of their instructors. If faculty...
Susan Ware
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Mar 2, 2005
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There can be legal/policy considerations that may discourage academic librarians from directly referring distance students enrolled at their institution to...
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