Hello avklab,

С TopoR DipTrace умеет общаться, в версии 2.0 уже появилась поддержка
дуг (тестируем как раз с топором). У топора был глюк в экспорте сес
файла, но они вроде его исправили.

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With kind regards,
 Stanislav Ruev                            mailto:group@...
 DipTrace Developer

Thursday, February 5, 2009, 8:04:45 PM, you wrote:

> Здравствуйте, Станислав и Алексей.

> В английской группе я отправлял неделю назад сообщение про интерфейс
> с FreeRouting  (см. ниже). Есть ли у Вас комментарии по этим моим
> изысканиям? Я предпочитаю пользоваться автотрассировкой, однако
> встроенный в DipTrace автотрассировщик не справляется со сколько-
> нибудь нетривиальными платами. Был бы признателен за воплощение моего
> предложения. Если это может помочь, вышлю исходный текст конвертора.
> Вероятно, расширение "всеядности" интерфейса поможет программе
> общаться и с другими автотрассировщиками (например, "Топором"
> http://www.freestyleteam.com/)

> С уважением,
> Александр Корженевский

> The DipTrace being almost perfect PCB design environment lacks
> suitable autorouting solution. The http://freerouting.net provides
> good gridless autorouter for free. Both DipTrace and FreeRouting
> declare Specctra interface compliance, but unfortunately they speak
> slightly different dialects and don't understand each other. By the
> cut-and-try I have found the following.

> Correct processing of the .dsn file generated by DipTrace in
> FreeRouting requires changing of just one number in this
> file: "(resolution mil 1)" into ... 100 (or more).

> Importing of router results is more complicated.
> 1) The .ses file provided by FreeRouting has UNIX-like line ends
> (LF), which are unacceptable by DipTrace expecting CRLF.
> 2) FreeRouting uses "net" keyword while DipTrace requires "Net"
> (uppercase first letter).
> 3) FreeRouting places the parts of "wire" statements in separate
> lines while DipTrace requires the "(wire (path Top" and at least
> three first values combined in the single line.

> As a temporary solution I have written command-line converter program
> dp2fr2dp.exe, which makes necessary corrections both in .dsn
> and .ses files. You can find it in the FreeRouting folder at the
> Yahoo group:
> http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/diptr/files/FreeRouting/ . The
> only command line parameter is the file name. If its extension
> is .dsn, the file will be converted from DipTrace to FreeRouting and
> FR_ prefix will be added. The .ses file will be converted backward
> and DP_ prefix will be added. I have put also the FR_routed.dip file
> as example of FreeRouting job. The initial file is from the DipTrace
> installation: Examples\electra_unrouted.dip.

> The statistics is impressive:
> Electra routed: vias: 351, total wires length: 452225.
> FreeRouting.net: vias: 214, total wires length: 382083.
> But ... FreeRouting takes almost one hour to complete routing and
> then you can infinitely run optimization passes. Electra routes this
> board in seconds.

> Certainly it will be beneficial to have direct integration of
> DipTrace with FreeRouting, so I believe that many will support me in
> asking developers to implement corresponding changes in the
> DipTrace Specctra interface.



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