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Nested facets

""" [Peter van Dijck]
I wrote about the concept of "nested facets" here:
http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/archives/002793.html
[...] I'm looking to see if this concept of nested facets has
been described/discussed elsewhere (in the LIS community?),
probably using other terms...
"""

Peter,

something very similar to your idea exists indeed in general
bibliographic classifications, both faceted and non-faceted:
it is usually called _common subdivisions_, or
_common auxiliaries_, or even _common isolates_.

For example, Dewey Decimal Classification has tables
of common subdivisions for places, historical periods,
person categories, languages, and so on, which can be attached
to many different classes within different disciplines
(see EG <http://www-class.unl.edu/curr921b/contents5.htm>):

-782 Nebraska

3729 Elementary education in particular regions
3729782 Elementary education in Nebraska

91(0) Geography
91782 Geography of Nebraska

Please notice that DDC is not a faceted classification:
common subdivisions are not a feature exclusive of FCs,
hence a librarian would not call them "facets".
I agree, however, that they are used in a way similar
to facets, and maybe can be seen as a first step towards
the idea of FC, namely of concept combinability, which
was developed later (since 1920s) in library science.

Faceted classification systems, like BC2, have both common
subdivisions and facets. The main difference is that facets
are limited to a specific discipline -- EG "habitat" is only
a facet within zoology -- while common subdivisions can
be applied across disciplines, as in the example above
with education and geography.

Hope this helps...




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I wrote about the concept of "nested facets" here: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/archives/002793.html It's a very simple concept, but one that I think we should...
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... I posted back to the blog, but wanted to echo my feedback to the list, as I'm curious to know what you think. My apologies if you read it twice. This...
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I like the "scope" concept. ... Exactly! Good stuff Travis. I like it. Peter...
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... Maybe I just need to see it twice but I think I now grasp what Peter was talking about and it's very interesting. Thanks Trav! I'm going to think about...
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Hi Peter - You're right; like many interesting subjects, at first, it looks so obvious that it's not even worth discussing, but this is a deep and interesting...
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Thanks Pete! Could you maybe give a few examples of this large taxonomy and how some facets only made sense at certain levels, and of the different ways you...
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""" [Peter van Dijck] I wrote about the concept of "nested facets" here: http://poorbuthappy.com/ease/archives/002793.html [...] I'm looking to see if this...
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Claudio, In that system, how would you apply two common subdivisions to the same class heading? e.g. ... -45 English language ??????? Elementary education...
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Thanks for the explanation Claudio! That's very helpful. Cheers, Peter...
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... So we call it a "common subdivision" (Lib language) if it has more than one "scope" (in Travis' language). If it has only one scope we call it a "facet". ...
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"[Travis Wilson] In that system, how would you apply two common subdivisions to the same class heading?" That is generally possible, by attaching common...
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Travis, In my opinion nested facets are rather broad facets (based on some general criterion of division) containing their subfacets (further specific criteria...
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