... (Major snippage) ... route signs mean something again. ... That's the whole rub. It isn't practical at all. That's why we will continue with the current ...
Yes, that happened with the opening of the new section of US-31 freeway north of Berrien Springs. ... Barry L. Camp In theory there is no difference between...
Here are some observations I have on the new 2005 MDOT map (online edition). I have broken things down to each section, travelling from north to south, and...
Regarding Muskegon, on a recent trip through town, Shoreline Dr. is not yet open to traffic, and Business US-31 continues to run on the one way pair of streets...
I agree with your point on Old M-14 wholeheartedly - it should not be a red line at all. As for Muskegon, I went through there several times last summer and on...
... AFAIK Business 31 still exists in its most recent form, northeast from US-31 Exit 7 along Walton Road then southeast aling former US- 31/33. It definitely...
Add these to the list... M-80's western terminus seems to be shown at the railroad line past I-75 - even further northwest than the Mackinaw Trail! I knew...
Cole, Dennis
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... I couldn't agree more wholeheartedly. I know that many in the "road- geek" community would call me a blasphemer, but most redesignations, renumberings and...
... Worse yet is the weirdness of that red railroad line having a z-order OVER the black line of H-63. This is just plain sloppiness, introducing new errors...
... I don't think it's blasphemy at all. It is simple common sense. We don't need a "great renumbering"; rather, we need to adhere to the existing numbering...
Oh, and I nearly forgot about M-108 disappearing completely (except for the oval and number)! ... From: greatlakesroads@yahoogroups.com ...
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These are the errors I have found in the Detroit map: - In Canton, the I-275 NB exit to US-12/Michigan Ave. is shown as exiting onto Lotz Rd. In reality, it...
... FWIW, I agree with Barry 100 percent... Later, Chris -- Chris Bessert Bessert1@... http://www.michiganhighways.org http://www.wisconsinhighways.org ...
I would like to know what happened to the Pleasant Valley, Mechanicsburg, Denver, and Path Valley service plazas. I know that Cove Valley was abandoned when...
Path Valley was Cove Valley's eastbound twin. It stood for many years until some vandals burned it down. Other "missing" service plazas have been converted...
... Would you happen to know what specifically all the other "missing" ones are currently being used as? The reason I am asking is because I plan to subnit all...
It SHOULD appear on the map as a gray county road. It may technically be a state highway, but it is not a numbered one. It is a NAMED one, and a named one that...
BY MATT HELMS FREE PRESS COLUMNIST It's summer travel time -- even if summer's officially 18 days away -- so here's the word on two travel tools for 2005: maps...
Maybe Chris and Barry can write Mr. Helms about the incorrect things on the new map. Maybe he will print them in the paper! Then I'm sure some MDOT officials...
... Actually, I was (supposedly) in the running once about a year or more ago to actually help re-draw the entire map. From what I've heard, that kinda went...
... Chris, I'm wondering if a letter directly to Ms. Jeff would be in order. If you... or perhaps... many of your fellow roadg-, er, "interested citizens",...
Hear, Hear! At the very least, maybe Chris (or anyone) should compile and forward all of the mistakes we've found in the last two days to as many MDOT'ers as...
Cole, Dennis
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... Thanks, Barry! It's much appreciated! Later, Chris -- Chris Bessert Bessert1@... http://www.michiganhighways.org http://www.wisconsinhighways.org ...
... Actually, that might not do much. No offense to MDOTers (espcially Patrick), but the number of people involved in the map is relatively few. Plus, MDOT is...
Yes, I first saw the M-139 shields between US-31 east of Berrien Springs and I-94 in September 2003. Now, there is some serious talk in the MDOT Southwest...
Unfortunately, I am not part of the "inner circle" at MDOT that gets to see the map before it goes out (not because I haven't tried, I have been recommended as...
