Thanks, teamb. While I have, in my own special way, 'moved on', I will never ever forget. No one should forget what IBM did to them. To all the real employees...
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danmayerinetport
danmayerinet...
May 8, 2012 3:47 pm
... From Aesop Belling the Cat LONG ago, the mice had a general council to consider what measures they could take to outwit their common enemy, the Cat. Some...
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Steve Klopfer
steveklopfer
May 8, 2012 4:39 pm
WTH is an SMSG&CA? For all I know I might be one. :) ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Steve
stevejm1935
May 8, 2012 5:08 pm
"Should have" - Yes. "Will have" - no....
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willbefree25
May 8, 2012 6:10 pm
I doubt it, you would know and be proud of it. SMSG&CAs = Sycophants, Mercenaries, Suckups, Greatlifers, & Corporate Apologists....
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madinpok
May 8, 2012 6:11 pm
SMSG&CA: sycophants, mercenaries, suckups, greatlifers, and corporate apologists Willbefree's favorite description for anyone who sees things differently from...
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ibm20yrsnot40
May 8, 2012 6:13 pm
Basically it is a shorthand way for folks here in this discussion group to disparage those who have the temerity to share opinions outside of the unstated...
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donwshuper50
May 8, 2012 6:14 pm
Sometimes - rather than to go the 'legal' route- other legal things can be done involving PUBLICITY . And a short- cogent description of the ' problem' sent to...
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ncdad1
May 8, 2012 8:50 pm
Hey ... there have been a few day of moaning about how IBM should have been and a list of the bad things they did .. got it .. Does anyone have anymore...
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donwshuper50
May 9, 2012 1:31 am
step one = get the FACTS by writing the plan administrator for the legal plan documents which apply to YOU re the new gotcha step two = IF you do not...
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Steve Klopfer
steveklopfer
May 9, 2012 1:32 am
As a current IBMer, 2nd choicer, 31 + years, here's my take: 1) It's exactly what it claims to be, an option for folks who are considering retirement but...
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Greg
hdman501
May 9, 2012 1:32 am
I think the general feeling is no one can possibly get their job done just working 3 days a week. And that is the only way it would work. Otherwise you are...
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Kevin W
nowwicked
May 9, 2012 1:32 am
Even if I had no knowledge of spreadsheets, middle school and high school math taught me how to handle numbers. I did the math on my end and figured out how...
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flatsflyer
May 9, 2012 1:32 am
Trying to get IBM'ers in formation is like trying to heard cats. For 10 years they had the opportunity to stand up to the Greedy Bastards, but they always...
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teamb562
May 9, 2012 2:10 am
I would define SMSG&CA as Willbefree's "realistic" view of our world. Smart man, he threw the rose colored glasses away long ago as I did and treated the enemy...
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fhawontcutit
May 9, 2012 2:10 am
... step 1a) READ THE LEGAL DISCLAIMER...
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willbefree25
May 9, 2012 11:06 am
... Tell that to the 5,000 fired in May 2009, many of whom were NOT eligible to retire. Not to worry, I'm sure there were no SMSG&CAs amongst them. ... IBM...
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donwshuper50
May 9, 2012 11:07 am
Yep step 1a is a good point- BUT what has been presented to the grunts is about as worthless as a piece of paper which can be printed or distributed- ie; a...
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fhawontcutit
May 9, 2012 2:15 pm
... Don, Everyone needs to read the legal disclaimers on the transition program in addition to the plan documents....
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fhawontcutit
May 9, 2012 2:16 pm
... Don, I'm trying to get everyone to look at the legal disclaimers on the transition program in addition to the plan documents....
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danmayerinetport
danmayerinet...
May 9, 2012 2:29 pm
... As every employee should realize, your manager will pressure you to accept heavier workloads and will allow you to work an infinite number of hours. It's...
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danmayerinetport
danmayerinet...
May 9, 2012 2:29 pm
... As every employee should realize, your manager will pressure you to accept heavier workloads and will allow you to work an infinite number of hours. It's...
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Steve Klopfer
steveklopfer
May 9, 2012 2:43 pm
First, I never said or believe that IBM, as all major corporations do, layoff people and cause turmoil and chaos, feelings of betrayal, etc. in folks lives....
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Steve Klopfer
steveklopfer
May 9, 2012 2:45 pm
I said: First, I never said or believe that IBM, as all major corporations do, layoff people and cause turmoil and chaos, feelings of betrayal, etc. in folks...
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ncdad1
May 9, 2012 4:03 pm
I do not see where employees have much leverage ... IBM does not need any of us ... we are all expendable ... My take is ... Financially, probably not a good...
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willbefree25
May 9, 2012 4:14 pm
... That's why employees need a contract....
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justa_bean_counter
justa_bean_c...
May 9, 2012 4:14 pm
Too bad you don't have any leverage. Too bad your health is failing and you have the FHA. Too bad your pension is no longer one leg of the three legged stool. ...
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ncdad1
May 9, 2012 5:21 pm
I think that IBM is long gone ... like a 9-5 job ... like family day ..I am guessing my kids will work in a virtual WW workforce as free agents with no...
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GideonW
gideon_wright
May 9, 2012 5:21 pm
"As to not yanking the annuity, I just believe they won't yank it without giving us the option to retire and take it. You may of course disagree, but unless...
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justa_bean_counter
justa_bean_c...
May 9, 2012 5:33 pm
As far as the free agent workforce idea, would that be similar to the land barrons and the serfs or more like the industrialists and the work houses, where we...
