We are changing to Atlastfullfillment in Denver.  They have a good interface and better rate and storage fees than Ifullfill.  They have a proven track record

Scot

4mypatio.com



-----Original Message-----
From: "sunk818"
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:21 pm
To: ifulfillmerchants@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ifulfillmerchants] Re: fulfillment house for a low volume business

> Can anyone recomend a fulfillment house for me?
> My site does only about 30-40 orders per month and half
> of those orders are shipped overseas via UPS & USPS.

Hi, I am in the same boat as you. I spoke with DART and they were sort
of nebulous about the rate after 90 days. I just rather know what I'm
getting into. My second choice after iFulfill during my initial
research with eFulfillmentService. Their web interface is not as nice,
but I rather have a service be stable and in business than have a fancy
infrastructure that disappears. Anyway, I chose them because they seem
to specialize in smaller businesses like us. The rates are better.

The only reason I did not pick them was that they did not offer USPS
First Class w/ DC. Now they do, so I am more than happy to work with
them.

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As employee number 2 of iFulfill.com and Lead developer, I am
available to provide developemnt assistance to merchants and
fulfillment companies.

I have been with Paul and iFulfill.com from the beginning. Together,
we laid out the foundation of the infrastructure and have been
building upon it up until a few days ago.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

Jeff Burdick
Jeff IT Consulting
jeff@...
Phone: (419)346-2554

> Can anyone recomend a fulfillment house for me?
> My site does only about 30-40 orders per month and half
> of those orders are shipped overseas via UPS & USPS.

Hi, I am in the same boat as you. I spoke with DART and they were sort
of nebulous about the rate after 90 days. I just rather know what I'm
getting into. My second choice after iFulfill during my initial
research with eFulfillmentService. Their web interface is not as nice,
but I rather have a service be stable and in business than have a fancy
infrastructure that disappears. Anyway, I chose them because they seem
to specialize in smaller businesses like us. The rates are better.

The only reason I did not pick them was that they did not offer USPS
First Class w/ DC. Now they do, so I am more than happy to work with
them.

Dear iFulfill refugees-

                           Can anyone recomend a fulfillment house for
me? My site does only about 30-40 orders per month and half of those
orders are shipped overseas via UPS & USPS. I made a quick decision to
go with DART on monday but am now worried that I am too small for them.
Thanks,
Wesley

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Thanks!

Hi,
After a very hurried search for a suitable replacement fulfillment
company I decided to go with Fulex.com. Carmen Mirabella is the person
in charge I spoke with. I sent an email to Paul to release my stock to
them. Hopefully Paul will confirm by tomorrow a.m. My impression from
speaking with Mr. Mirabella was positive, in case anyone else still
looking for a replacement.  Anyone else going with Fulex.

Hi All,

The Fulfillment House, located in New Jersey, would like to offer all
former customers of iFulfill an opportunity to transfer their material
to our warehouse.  We have NO requirements for placing orders,
quantities, etc.  It is up to YOU how you want to handle your orders,
inventory, and processing of orders.  We have no specific software
requirements for you to hook up to.

We are family owned and run, and have been in business for over 13
years.  We have had many iFulfill customers already call us for
quotes.  Go to our website at www.thefulfillmenthouse.com for more
information.  Or call us directly, toll free at 888-937-4828, ext 28
to speak with Greg Kilmer, the owner.

Thank you and good luck to all.

Peggy Kilmer
peggyk@...

We are making arrangements to have inventory picked up next week.
Webgistix is paying the inventory transfer costs to our warehouse
for customers that choose our service.  There are no set-up fees.

Webgistix has talked to Paul and is working with iFulfill to make
the transfer smooth.

If you have not contacted us and want to take part in this service
please call Linda Meyer Lambert at 716-372-5211 or email
lmlambert@....

We are in Western NY and are close to Ohio.  Your down time will be
minimal.

Thanks.
Joseph DiSorbo
Webgistix Corporation
jdisorbo@...






--- In ifulfillmerchants@yahoogroups.com, Keith Baker
<ccconvert@y...> wrote:
> Thanks for the invitation to the group.
>
> I've been wondering how I'm going to get to Maumee from Montana in
> order to transact any movement of my product.  This may help.
>
> I'm talking to fulfillment houses in the Cleveland area
(USBrands.com),
> Cincinnati (FilTek) and Grand Rapids, MI (Progressive
Distribution).  I
> have not talked to the gentleman at DART yet, but thanks to Debra
> Crandall for the info - I plan to follow up on it.
>
> If we were to all end up at the same new fulfillment company, we
might
> be able to save a bundle on the trucking.  I assume that is one of
the
> reasons you started this group (which is an excellent idea, I might
> add).
> In my case, I really like what USBrands had to say, and their
pricing
> is comparable to iFulfill.  Also, their proximity to Maumee (lower
> shipping cost) and to the East Coast population centers makes them
> attractive.
> Progressive is a large outfit, and again quite close to Maumee and
in
> the same UPS zone as Maumee.  I'm having trouble getting through to
> their Business Development person; the message she left me is that
she
> is dealing with a lot of former iFulfill merchants just now.  If
that's
> true, we might again do well to join that group.
>
> Rob Frankel on the West Coast used iFulfill and was one of two
referals
> supplied to me when I was deciding.  Perhaps the author of this
group
> could send him and invitation.

We are making arrangements to have inventory picked up next week.

We are paying for the inventory transfer costs to our warehouse and
there are no set-up fees.

Webgistix has talked to Paul and is working with iFulfill to make
the transfer smooth.

If you have not contacted us and want to take part in this service
please call Linda Meyer Lambert at 716-372-5211 or email
lmlambert@....

We are in Western NY and are close to Ohio.  Your down time will be
minimal.

Thanks.
Joseph DiSorbo
Webgistix Corporation
jdisorbo@...

Webgistix was also on our shortlist.  They seem to be similar to
ifulfill but with a higher level of service.  If we had more SKU's, I
think we would have went with them -- they're worth a look, especially
if you're considering DART.

I am sorry for all those that have been inconvenienced by the
iFulfill shut down.

I am writing to tell all those that are looking for a new
fulfillment solution that Webgistix Corporation (www.webgistix.com)
is proving special pricing and free inventory transfer to those
customers that are looking for a new fulfillment service.

I recently talked to Paul and he is really trying to make the
transition for iFulfill customers smooth.  We are committed to that
as well.  Please contact me at 716-372-5211 or 716-485-6430 or
jdisorbo@... if you need fulfillment services.  You can
also get more information at www.webgistix.com.

Thanks.

Joseph DiSorbo
President
Webgistix Corporation

Hi all.  As an independent sales rep for iFulfill, I have worked with Lori,
Keith, and others on this list in the past few months.  For the last couple
of days now, I've been helping folks transition to eFulfillment Services.

I'm happy to report that they are getting ready to accept XML order input.
They had been testing it via clients who use Yahoo Stores before all of this
craziness -- and are now working to integrate with UltraCart and other XML
file transfers in the same way that iFulfill did.

In fact, I know that 2 of iFulfill's top XML programmers are already talking
with EFS about helping them speed up the implementation.  If you need more
info on any of this, please feel free to contact me.

Terry Cochran
B2C4U.com, a service of
A2 Multimedia LLC

tcochran@...
Answer Svc: (888) 664-7961
Direct Line: (734) 944-7839

Efulfillment Service already had an xml setup for yahoo stores in beta test. I
have given them all my info on how I worked with the xml feed to upload my
orders, and they say they will have something set up in a few days. I hope
they're right!

-Lori-

Quoting Steve De Long <steve@...>:

> Also, I didn't mention it, but we are definitely going to push Ironlinx to go
> XML.  We were testing our XML feeds Monday morning when we received the
> email!
>   ----- Original Message -----
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>   To: ifulfillmerchants@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:50 PM
>   Subject: [ifulfillmerchants] Question re: IronLinx
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----- Original Message -----

From: mbballard

To: ifulfillmerchants@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:50 PM

Subject: [ifulfillmerchants] Question re: IronLinx

Do you know if IronLinx supports an XML data/order transmission?

Thanks.

----- Original Message -----

From: mbballard

To: ifulfillmerchants@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:50 PM

Subject: [ifulfillmerchants] Question re: IronLinx

Do you know if IronLinx supports an XML data/order transmission?

Thanks.

They're quite advanced, and I believe XML would suit them fine.

Go to: http://www.ironlinx.com/

And have a look around.  It is worth giving them a call to discuss.
Note the special link on their homepage for former iFulfill merchants.

Do you know if IronLinx supports an XML data/order transmission?

Thanks.

----- Original Message -----

From: Keith Baker

To: ifulfillmerchants@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:49 PM

Subject: [ifulfillmerchants] Also going to IronLinx

Just thought I'd chime in here.  I'm also moving with IronLinx, for me
it is a good fit.  I'm very small and only stock 2 pallets of one item
presently.  They're owned by a large, successful operation (which
should help overcome and capitalization problems) and are expanding
their distribution/fulfillment services by utilizing existing
infrastructure capacity.

As of noon Eastern time today, Scott said he thought he had room for
about two more pallets on their truck.  They plan to arrive tomorrow
morning in Maumee and he and his team will load as quickly as possible.

I realize this is not a solution for many others, so good luck to all,
and have a safe landing.  Perhaps we could keep this group alive in the
future to share fulfillment successes or (yikes) horror stories...

Keith Baker
K and L Products
www.heygarlichead.com     [Home of Garlic Head Barbecue Sauce]

Hello,

EchoData Group is full service production, fulfillment and program
management services company located just outside of Philadelphia, PA.
Established in 1983, EchoData has been serving clients for over 20
years with high quality, technology based fulfillment services.  We
manage direct to consumer, B2B and retail distrobution coupled with
on-line (real time) access to inventory and shipping information.  We
manage many simple and complex fulfillment programs with very high
accuracy and quick turnaround on orders.

If you are seeking a new partner, please feel free to check us out on
the web at www.echodata.com or call us at (800) 635-2679 x 112 for
more information.  We are in the process of working with former
iFulfill clients and have existing ties with the same call center
partner they use for programs.

Looking forward to the opportunity to speak with you and understand
if we may be a good fit for your fulfillment needs.

Kind Regards,

Jonathan Roberts
EchoData Group

At 4:35 PM +0000 7/27/05, mbballard wrote thusly:
>The iFulfill debacle has made me want to get my merchandise stored a
>little closer to home (California...).
>
>Has anyone heard of a West Coast fulfillment company participating in
>an iFulfill pick-up program?
>

I'm also in California, so if you want to combine shipping to Los
Angeles, we should talk.  818-990-8623
--
Rob Frankel, "Yes, I really do turn users into evangelists for your brand."
Branding Expert  http://www.RobFrankel.com   Skype/AIM:  ROBFRANKEL
Yes, there's an RSS feed blog, if you can handle it:
http://robfrankel.blogspot.com

Just thought I'd chime in here.  I'm also moving with IronLinx, for me
it is a good fit.  I'm very small and only stock 2 pallets of one item
presently.  They're owned by a large, successful operation (which
should help overcome and capitalization problems) and are expanding
their distribution/fulfillment services by utilizing existing
infrastructure capacity.

As of noon Eastern time today, Scott said he thought he had room for
about two more pallets on their truck.  They plan to arrive tomorrow
morning in Maumee and he and his team will load as quickly as possible.

I realize this is not a solution for many others, so good luck to all,
and have a safe landing.  Perhaps we could keep this group alive in the
future to share fulfillment successes or (yikes) horror stories...

Keith Baker
K and L Products
www.heygarlichead.com     [Home of Garlic Head Barbecue Sauce]

The iFulfill debacle has made me want to get my merchandise stored a
little closer to home (California...).

Has anyone heard of a West Coast fulfillment company participating in
an iFulfill pick-up program?

Anyone going with/have experience with/spoken with DART?

They look like a very solid company, and I think I might go with them
if my other plan doesn't work out.

We're all in a bind here, I guess. We have to act fast, but the last
thing anyone wants to do is go to another company that just 'appears'
to be stable.

Craig Mason

for merchants going to Efulfillment Service in Michigan:
I just heard back from John Lindberg at EFS. Here are instructions to give Paul,
once he has your inventory ready:

--------------------------------------------
HI Lori,

That is great news....I have asked Yellow Freight to place a series of 28
foot trailers at iFulfill and as each one is filled, to bring it to us.
Cost per trailer for each trip is only $700, so the cost per client pallet
should work out to be quite affordable.  I will advise the details as soon
as known.  For now, please tell Paul that EFS is sending a series of
trailers and to have Yellow keep replacing these until all the EFS client
merchandise is shipped.  Please ask him to double stack pallets whenever he
can.

Many thanks,

John



-----Original Message-----
From: Lori Alperin Resnick [mailto:earth-friendly@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:23 AM
To: jal@...
Subject: I got a call from Paul Perdue: Please Respond

Hi John. I checked my voicemail, and I got a call from Paul Perdue!
He said he has 6 pallets for me to get picked up (I thought I should only
have 3 pallets, and it will probably be a lot more expensive to ship 6
pallets, but I guess I shouldn't argue.) He said I should call him and email
him, with the trucking company I am using, and then he will call the local
dispatch of the trucking company to arrange to get out my shipment.

I was really hoping to get my products shipped with the other merchants
going to your company, so we can all save on the shipping costs. Can we make
this happen?

Perhaps you can give me the names of these other merchants, and I can call
and email Paul with this information?

How does it work with the trucking company? You said I should contact
myyellow.com? Any idea how I can find out the cost? Would it cost a lot less
if we combine forces with the other merchants? Do I/we arrange everything
with the trucking company before I call Paul?

Please get back to me as soon as you can. I want to make this work. I'd like
to get back to Paul as soon as possible--I'm sure it will take a while for
him to get my message.

I'm not at home now, but I am checking messages:
732-937-5978.

I've tried calling you several times, but of course your line is busy,
dealing with all this craziness!

Thanks very much for your help!

Regards,
-Lori Resnick-

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We decided against Dart since they're very big and we're afraid of
being lost in the shuffle -- 10,000 ft of conveyor belts vs. the 100
to 500 orders we have per month.

We've decided to go with Ironlinx -- here is my posting from the
ifulfill blog:
We've made our choice to replace ifulfill after our hurried research
and phone calls: Ironlinx http://www.ironlinx.com based outside of
Philadelphia. The other company we almost went with is
http://www.efulfillmentservice.com/ which also looks very good. The
deciding factor is that Ironlinx is a 2 hr drive from our office and
is sending a truck up to Ohio to get our stuff.

One important factor for anyone to consider is that you can't just
call Yellow, Fedex, UPS etc to pick up your stuff. Someone has to
physically pick your items off the shelves at ifulfill's warehouse.
Ifulfull doesn't have people to do this and the delivery and freight
companies won't do this.

Another important factor is time -- I suggest anyone who has
merchandise at ifulfill to get it out as soon as possible. The
situation is not predicable. The warehouse could be padlocked because
of bankruptcy proceedings, etc.

If you can't get to Ohio to get your stuff out, you should find
someone to do so quickly. You can call Scott Danby of Ironlinx at 610
636 7512 (cell) or 610 444 2406 ext. 106. He's taking a truck up
tonight (Wednesday, 7/27)

You can also contact me at my email address steve@... if
you want to discuss why we're going with them. BTW, we have between
100 and 500 orders per month volume.

I'll report back on how our mission goes here and at the blog I set up
in case this one goes down at http://ifulfill.blogspot.com/

I just checked my voicemail, and I got a call from Paul Perdue!
He said he has 6 pallets for me to get picked up (I thought I should only have 3
pallets, and it will be a lot more expensive to ship 6 pallets, but I guess I
shouldn't argue.)
I was hoping to get together with the other merchants going to the same
fulfillment house (Efulfillment Service), so we could share on the shipping, but
I don't know if this is going to happen. Any suggestions?

It sounds like Paul is busy trying to get people's product ready.

Regards,
-Lori-

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At 9:04 PM +0000 7/26/05, langtr08 wrote thusly:
>We've been talking to Dart in Naperville Illinois.  Apparently the
>owner has contacted Paul and is arranging trucks to pick up former
>IFulfill merchant inventory once they are ready.  They will split
>the cost of the truck (around $800) among the merchants so the cost
>of transporting will not be that much. Dart will honor iFulfill
>prices for 2-3 months after which they will reassess.
>
>The question is when will our inventory be ready for pick up? Has
>anyone heard any news?
>

I got a personal e-mail from Paul, but nothing other than the e-mail
that you all received.
--
Rob Frankel, "Yes, I really do turn users into evangelists for your brand."
Branding Expert  http://www.RobFrankel.com   Skype/AIM:  ROBFRANKEL
Yes, there's an RSS feed blog, if you can handle it:
http://robfrankel.blogspot.com

We've been talking to Dart in Naperville Illinois.  Apparently the
owner has contacted Paul and is arranging trucks to pick up former
IFulfill merchant inventory once they are ready.  They will split
the cost of the truck (around $800) among the merchants so the cost
of transporting will not be that much. Dart will honor iFulfill
prices for 2-3 months after which they will reassess.

The question is when will our inventory be ready for pick up? Has
anyone heard any news?



--- In ifulfillmerchants@yahoogroups.com, Keith Baker
<ccconvert@y...> wrote:
> Thanks for the invitation to the group.
>
> I've been wondering how I'm going to get to Maumee from Montana in
> order to transact any movement of my product.  This may help.
>
> I'm talking to fulfillment houses in the Cleveland area
(USBrands.com),
> Cincinnati (FilTek) and Grand Rapids, MI (Progressive
Distribution).  I
> have not talked to the gentleman at DART yet, but thanks to Debra
> Crandall for the info - I plan to follow up on it.
>
> If we were to all end up at the same new fulfillment company, we
might
> be able to save a bundle on the trucking.  I assume that is one of
the
> reasons you started this group (which is an excellent idea, I might
> add).
> In my case, I really like what USBrands had to say, and their
pricing
> is comparable to iFulfill.  Also, their proximity to Maumee (lower
> shipping cost) and to the East Coast population centers makes them
> attractive.
> Progressive is a large outfit, and again quite close to Maumee and
in
> the same UPS zone as Maumee.  I'm having trouble getting through to
> their Business Development person; the message she left me is that
she
> is dealing with a lot of former iFulfill merchants just now.  If
that's
> true, we might again do well to join that group.
>
> Rob Frankel on the West Coast used iFulfill and was one of two
referals
> supplied to me when I was deciding.  Perhaps the author of this
group
> could send him and invitation.

I thought it would be useful to get together as many former Ifulfill merchants
as possible to share our ideas on what to do next.

I have been talking with Efulfillment Service in Michigan
(efulfillmentservice.com), and they seem pretty reasonable. They actually have a
section on their info page relating to Ifulfill merchants.
It sounds like there may be groups of people going to different fulfillment
houses. The person I spoke to at efulfillment service said that they would have
to put a limit on how many new merchants they could accept at one time. That
would be great if somehow we could get together the groups of people going to
different fulfillment houses, and get all the products shipped together to save
on shipping.

Please pass the word on about this group to any other Ifulfill merchants that
you know about. There are currently only a few people who have joined this
group. I'm hoping that the word will spread, so we can all help each other out.

Regards,
-Lori Resnick-

Quoting Keith Baker <ccconvert@...>:

> Thanks for the invitation to the group.
>
> I've been wondering how I'm going to get to Maumee from Montana in
> order to transact any movement of my product.  This may help.
>
> I'm talking to fulfillment houses in the Cleveland area (USBrands.com),
> Cincinnati (FilTek) and Grand Rapids, MI (Progressive Distribution).  I
> have not talked to the gentleman at DART yet, but thanks to Debra
> Crandall for the info - I plan to follow up on it.
>
> If we were to all end up at the same new fulfillment company, we might
> be able to save a bundle on the trucking.  I assume that is one of the
> reasons you started this group (which is an excellent idea, I might
> add).
> In my case, I really like what USBrands had to say, and their pricing
> is comparable to iFulfill.  Also, their proximity to Maumee (lower
> shipping cost) and to the East Coast population centers makes them
> attractive.
> Progressive is a large outfit, and again quite close to Maumee and in
> the same UPS zone as Maumee.  I'm having trouble getting through to
> their Business Development person; the message she left me is that she
> is dealing with a lot of former iFulfill merchants just now.  If that's
> true, we might again do well to join that group.
>
> Rob Frankel on the West Coast used iFulfill and was one of two referals
> supplied to me when I was deciding.  Perhaps the author of this group
> could send him and invitation.
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Thanks for the invitation to the group.

I've been wondering how I'm going to get to Maumee from Montana in
order to transact any movement of my product.  This may help.

I'm talking to fulfillment houses in the Cleveland area (USBrands.com),
Cincinnati (FilTek) and Grand Rapids, MI (Progressive Distribution).  I
have not talked to the gentleman at DART yet, but thanks to Debra
Crandall for the info - I plan to follow up on it.

If we were to all end up at the same new fulfillment company, we might
be able to save a bundle on the trucking.  I assume that is one of the
reasons you started this group (which is an excellent idea, I might
add).
In my case, I really like what USBrands had to say, and their pricing
is comparable to iFulfill.  Also, their proximity to Maumee (lower
shipping cost) and to the East Coast population centers makes them
attractive.
Progressive is a large outfit, and again quite close to Maumee and in
the same UPS zone as Maumee.  I'm having trouble getting through to
their Business Development person; the message she left me is that she
is dealing with a lot of former iFulfill merchants just now.  If that's
true, we might again do well to join that group.

Rob Frankel on the West Coast used iFulfill and was one of two referals
supplied to me when I was deciding.  Perhaps the author of this group
could send him and invitation.