Search the web
Sign In
New User? Sign Up
indexersdiscussionlist · Indexers' Discussion List
? Already a member? Sign in to Yahoo!

Yahoo! Groups Tips

Did you know...
Real people. Real stories. See how Yahoo! Groups impacts members worldwide.

Best of Y! Groups

   Check them out and nominate your group.
Having problems with message search? Fill out this form to ensure your group is one of the first to be migrated to the new message search system.

Messages

  Messages Help
Advanced
sorting Spanish names   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #12858 of 13789 |
Re: [indexersdiscussionlist] sorting Spanish names


On 3 Jul 2009, at 3:08 PM, Ed Rush wrote:

>
> On 3 Jul 2009, at 8:45 AM, Janet Russell wrote:
>
>> I don't know about the geographical names. LofC uses "Patagonia
>> (Argentina
>> and Chile)," but I would say the gloss adds too much information
>> for a
>> children's index.
>
>
> In Spanish, a certain nation is "la Argentina," but in English it is
> simply "Argentina." (Same with various other countries.) So, I would
> extrapolate that an English-language index should ignore the article
> on Patagonia, too.
>
>> I am pretty leery of Wikipedia, but it has "De la Renta" in second
>> reference to the designer.
>
> As for personal names, IMO an English-language index should go that
> way, if only because most Americans (and I suspect most Brits) would
> think of him as "Mr. De La Renta" and not as "Mr. Renta." On the
> other hand, the explorer Hernán de Cortéz de Monroy y Pizarro
> (1485-1547) is usually thought of as "Pizarro," so that's how an
> anglophone index should handle him.

Oops, my error. This was the guy known to us as Cortéz, not Pizarro.
The one we know as Pizarro was Francisco Pizarro González
(1471?-1541). Methinks that my mistake just goes to prove my point,
that we should make their main entries under
Cortéz de Monroy y Pizarro, Hernán de
Pizarro González, Francisco

-*"*-.,,.-*"*-.,,.-*"*-.,,.-*"*-.,,.-*"*-.,,.-*"*-.,,.-*"*—
Ed Rush, Boise, Idaho
ed@...
http://edrene.us/






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




Fri Jul 3, 2009 9:15 pm

goaliegeewhiz
Offline Offline
Send Email Send Email

Forward
Message #12858 of 13789 |
Expand Messages Author Sort by Date

Hi, all. 1) People names in Spanish: I'm having doubts about sorting Oscar de la Renta. If I'm reading CMS and Mulvaney correctly, it would seem that it should...
solana35
Offline Send Email
Jul 3, 2009
2:02 pm

_____ From: indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of solana35 Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 7:03 AM ...
Janet Russell
corofindex
Offline Send Email
Jul 3, 2009
2:45 pm

... In Spanish, a certain nation is "la Argentina," but in English it is simply "Argentina." (Same with various other countries.) So, I would extrapolate that...
Ed Rush
goaliegeewhiz
Offline Send Email
Jul 3, 2009
9:15 pm

... Oops, my error. This was the guy known to us as Cortéz, not Pizarro. The one we know as Pizarro was Francisco Pizarro González (1471?-1541). Methinks...
Ed Rush
goaliegeewhiz
Offline Send Email
Jul 3, 2009
9:16 pm

Thanks to all who contributed to a fascinating and very helpful discussion on indexing Spanish names. Mary...
solana35
Offline Send Email
Jul 6, 2009
1:34 pm

... Great question. After indexing a few book with many Spanish names and one about Hugo Chavez, I suggest taking the "rules" with a grain of salt. The Chavez...
Pam Rider
tsktsk92103
Offline Send Email
Jul 3, 2009
4:13 pm

Do not forget the Library of Congress Name Authority lists. Norman Duren, Jr. ... From: Pam Rider To: indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July...
Norman Duren, Jr.
durenn@...
Send Email
Jul 3, 2009
5:24 pm

Someone else has suggested that for a book with a largely English-(native-)speaking readership -- especially if this one is an elementary textbook -- use what...
Joel S. Berson
joelberson
Offline Send Email
Jul 3, 2009
7:04 pm
Advanced

Copyright © 2009 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.
Privacy Policy - Terms of Service - Guidelines - Help