I am currently indexing a text that is unlike others I have indexed. The
author likes to tell stories to get her points across, and the main
character in her stories is simply referred to by her first name. The
author uses these stories to illustrate her points, and thus should be
indexed. I can index the concepts easily enough, but how does one deal
with the first name of the character in the story? Perhaps, in the end,
they do not need to be indexed, but I can see a situation where someone
remembers a story about "Jill" in the text and they would like to find
it again. In most cases, these stories are based on actual events and
the author has simple changed the name of the woman involved (the text
is on women in a male-dominated business). I am interested to hear how
others have dealt with similar situations.

Thanks!

Catherine
Kostyn Indexing

I worked on a book like this. I indexed under "Jill's story" and "Betty's
story." The client was satisfied with this approach.



Meg


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From: Catherine K. <catrin@...>
To: indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Sep 1, 2009 5:46 pm
Subject: [indexersdiscussionlist] Case studies





























I am currently indexing a text that is unlike others I have indexed. The

author likes to tell stories to get her points across, and the main

character in her stories is simply referred to by her first name. The

author uses these stories to illustrate her points, and thus should be

indexed. I can index the concepts easily enough, but how does one deal

with the first name of the character in the story? Perhaps, in the end,

they do not need to be indexed, but I can see a situation where someone

remembers a story about "Jill" in the text and they would like to find

it again. In most cases, these stories are based on actual events and

the author has simple changed the name of the woman involved (the text

is on women in a male-dominated business). I am interested to hear how

others have dealt with similar situations.



Thanks!



Catherine

Kostyn Indexing




































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You are the indexer. If you believe readers will remember case
information by the names, index those names.

Catherine K. wrote:
> I am currently indexing a text that is unlike others I have indexed. The
> author likes to tell stories to get her points across, and the main
> character in her stories is simply referred to by her first name. The
> author uses these stories to illustrate her points, and thus should be
> indexed. I can index the concepts easily enough, but how does one deal
> with the first name of the character in the story? Perhaps, in the end,
> they do not need to be indexed, but I can see a situation where someone
> remembers a story about "Jill" in the text and they would like to find
> it again. In most cases, these stories are based on actual events and
> the author has simple changed the name of the woman involved (the text
> is on women in a male-dominated business). I am interested to hear how
> others have dealt with similar situations.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Catherine
> Kostyn Indexing
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>


--
Best,
Pam Rider
Trying to walk cheerfully on the Earth

At 9/1/2009 07:21 PM, Pam Rider wrote:
>You are the indexer. If you believe readers will remember case
>information by the names, index those names.

I am the Walrus.  So say I too.

Joel

I like this approach - and thanks to everyone for their thoughts on this!

Catherine K.
> I worked on a book like this. I indexed under "Jill's story" and "Betty's
story." The client was satisfied with this approach.
>
>
>
> Meg
>
>

I like Meg's approach. In the past I've handled it this way:

Jill (case study)


Cheers,
Carol Roberts
http://www.RobertsIndexing.com
http://www.ArtWanted.com/CarolR

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address to strangers (to me) without my permission. Sorry to sound so
militant, but my wishes have not been respected much. Repeat
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I do it this way too.

Shoshana

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Carol<indexer@...> wrote:
>
>
> I like Meg's approach. In the past I've handled it this way:
>
> Jill (case study)
>
> Cheers,
> Carol Roberts
> http://www.RobertsIndexing.com
> http://www.ArtWanted.com/CarolR

I use case study, story, example, or whatever word or phrase the author has used
for these made-up narrations. I check the text and preface for the author's
terminology. If the author hasn't specified, I use case study, unless that is
too clinical for the type of book. -- Steve




I do it this way too.

Shoshana

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Carol<indexer@...> wrote:
>
>
> I like Meg's approach. In the past I've handled it this way:
>
> Jill (case study)
>
> Cheers,
> Carol Roberts
> http://www.RobertsIndexing.com
> http://www.ArtWanted.com/CarolR









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I have been asked to provide samples for a potential client, however,
all I have is past projects. Do I send just a portion of two or find the
index on Amazon and send the link?

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

  ------
  Jessica McCurdy Crooks
  Writer/Indexer/Proofreader
  954-703-6765
  http://www.nextindexservices.com
  blog: http://blogs.babiesonline.com/author/jessdel27/

On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:06 AM, jessica@... wrote:

> been asked to provide samples for a potential client, however,
> all I have is past projects. Do I send just a portion of two or find
> the
> index on Amazon and send the link?
>
> Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

I think either is fine. If you decide to go with the Amazon link, make
sure the index in the book is the index as you wrote it. Sometimes
editors mess with a perfectly good index and it ends up screwy. You
wouldn't want a potential to think that was your work.  I had a book
once that the editor thought was incorrectly alphabetized and resorted
all my subs on the leading articles if there were any, and another
that took out several entire entries, leaving in xrefs, so there were
5 or 6 blind cross references.

Rae

_______________________
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Brookline, Vermont USA
Freelance indexing and editing
http://www.rachelrice.com
YM/Skype: sevencatday









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Thank you, Rae. I will check the Amazon links first before sending, I
surely didn't didn't think about what the editing process would do to an
index once delivered.


  ------
  Jessica McCurdy Crooks
  Writer/Indexer/Proofreader
  954-703-6765
  http://www.nextindexservices.com
  blog: http://blogs.babiesonline.com/author/jessdel27/


    -------- Original Message --------
  Subject: Re: [indexersdiscussionlist] Samples - What to do?
  From: Rae <racric@...>
  Date: Wed, September 02, 2009 8:24 am
  To: indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com


  On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:06 AM, jessica@... wrote:

  > been asked to provide samples for a potential client, however,
  > all I have is past projects. Do I send just a portion of two or find
  > the
  > index on Amazon and send the link?
  >
  > Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

  I think either is fine. If you decide to go with the Amazon link, make
  sure the index in the book is the index as you wrote it.

  Rae

  _______________________
  please note new email address: racric@...
  ___________________________
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  Brookline, Vermont USA
  Freelance indexing and editing
  http://www.rachelrice.com
  YM/Skype: sevencatday

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Quite honestly, I am typically stuck with extremely clinical books. My
personal bias is that an otolaryngologist would need and remember
"Reinke edema" case study before they seek "Leonard's case study."

I rarely have books with case studies in which personal names would
likely be relevant.

Steve Csipke wrote:
> I use case study, story, example, or whatever word or phrase the author has
used for these made-up narrations. I check the text and preface for the author's
terminology. If the author hasn't specified, I use case study, unless that is
too clinical for the type of book. -- Steve
>
>
>
>
> I do it this way too.
>
> Shoshana
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Carol<indexer@...> wrote:
>>
>> I like Meg's approach. In the past I've handled it this way:
>>
>> Jill (case study)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Carol Roberts
>> http://www.RobertsIndexing.com
>> http://www.ArtWanted.com/CarolR
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>


--
Best,
Pam Rider
Trying to walk cheerfully on the Earth

I'm working on an index for an anthology which has a time line with names and
events in the front, with page numbers in lower-case Roman numerals, in roman
style.

There are three tables in the book, and I'm indexing the contents of those and
adding a roman style "t" to the locator (42t). I'd like to do the same for the
time line, since I see it as a kind of table, but that gets me really
awkward-looking locators like xixt, all in roman style. Ick.

I'm using italic style locators for the photos/illustrations. There aren't that
many of these, so I could possibly use a gloss -- (photo) or (ill) in the entry,
and use Italic style for the Roman numerals.

I'm wondering if the "t" could be in italics for tables and time line, or if
there's a better way to make the "t" distinct. I don't like the idea of boldface
in this book.

Open to all suggestions!

Cheers,
Margie


Marjorie Joy
Words & Images
Back-of-the-Book Indexing
Fine Art & Illustration
http://www.flickr.com/photos/59865934@N00/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rae
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:24 AM
> To: indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [indexersdiscussionlist] Samples - What to do?
>
>
> On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:06 AM, jessica@... wrote:
>
> > been asked to provide samples for a potential client, however,
> > all I have is past projects. Do I send just a portion of two or find
> > the
> > index on Amazon and send the link?
> >
> > Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
>
> I think either is fine. If you decide to go with the Amazon link, make
> sure the index in the book is the index as you wrote it. Sometimes
> editors mess with a perfectly good index and it ends up screwy.


Not only that, but Amazon reviews never die and if you did a superb job on
the second edition of a book that had a terrible index for the first
edition, you may find some savage criticism of "the index" without any
indication that it refers to the earlier edition. It happened to me.

If you are providing a sample for one person, I would check Amazon before
sending them there and then explain any discrepancies if necessary. I would
*never* blindly send the general public to something I did on Amazon.

Also, if you send them samples from your files, you are technically
violating the copyright of the publisher by reproducing a part of the book
without permission. Not that I think anyone would make a Big Deal about it,
I just mention it as a possibility.

Thanks, Richard. I've thought about the Copyright hence I'm not thinking
about more than a few pages of an index for a published book. Now, I'm
very leery of using Amazon.

So, what do I do for samples in the meantime? I now realize that I will
need to index a few books I have that are without indexes and keep for
samples.


  ------
  Jessica McCurdy Crooks
  Writer/Indexer/Proofreader
  954-703-6765
  http://www.nextindexservices.com
  blog: http://blogs.babiesonline.com/author/jessdel27/


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  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com
  > [mailto:indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rae
  > Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:24 AM
  > To: indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: Re: [indexersdiscussionlist] Samples - What to do?
  >
  >
  > On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:06 AM, jessica@... wrote:
  >
  > > been asked to provide samples for a potential client, however,
  > > all I have is past projects. Do I send just a portion of two or
find
  > > the
  > > index on Amazon and send the link?

  >
  > I think either is fine. If you decide to go with the Amazon link,
make
  > sure the index in the book is the index as you wrote it. Sometimes
  > editors mess with a perfectly good index and it ends up screwy.

  Not only that, but Amazon reviews never die and if you did a superb job
on
  the second edition of a book that had a terrible index for the first
  edition, you may find some savage criticism of "the index" without any
  indication that it refers to the earlier edition. It happened to me.

  Also, if you send them samples from your files, you are technically
  violating the copyright of the publisher by reproducing a part of the
book
  without permission. Not that I think anyone would make a Big Deal about
it,
  I just mention it as a possibility.

I provide links on my website to the indexes I've written that are displayed
on Amazon.com, after carefully checking to make sure (1) that the index
displayed is actually for the edition I indexed, and (2) that no egregious
changes were made in the index as displayed.  Then I refer potential clients
to the website for samples of my work. I also offer to provide sample pages
from other titles listed on the website if no links are available, but
nobody has ever asked for this.

And I've been told by several clients that seeing the samples on Amazon were
the deciding factor in hiring me -- including one recent author-client who
told me that he was willing to pay my higher rate (vs. other quotes
received) precisely because he liked the index I had written for his
colleague's book on a related topic.  I

Regards,
Carolyn Weaver
Weaver Indexing Service
cgweaver@...
http://www.weaverindexing.com


----- Original Message -----
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To: <indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 7:21 AM
Subject: RE: [indexersdiscussionlist] Samples - What to do?


> Thanks, Richard. I've thought about the Copyright hence I'm not thinking
> about more than a few pages of an index for a published book. Now, I'm
> very leery of using Amazon.
>
> So, what do I do for samples in the meantime? I now realize that I will
> need to index a few books I have that are without indexes and keep for
> samples.
>
>
> ------
> Jessica McCurdy Crooks
> Writer/Indexer/Proofreader
> 954-703-6765
> http://www.nextindexservices.com
> blog: http://blogs.babiesonline.com/author/jessdel27/
>
>
>   -------- Original Message --------
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rae
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:24 AM
> > To: indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [indexersdiscussionlist] Samples - What to do?
> >
> >
> > On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:06 AM, jessica@... wrote:
> >
> > > been asked to provide samples for a potential client, however,
> > > all I have is past projects. Do I send just a portion of two or
> find
> > > the
> > > index on Amazon and send the link?
>
> >
> > I think either is fine. If you decide to go with the Amazon link,
> make
> > sure the index in the book is the index as you wrote it. Sometimes
> > editors mess with a perfectly good index and it ends up screwy.
>
> Not only that, but Amazon reviews never die and if you did a superb job
> on
> the second edition of a book that had a terrible index for the first
> edition, you may find some savage criticism of "the index" without any
> indication that it refers to the earlier edition. It happened to me.
>
> Also, if you send them samples from your files, you are technically
> violating the copyright of the publisher by reproducing a part of the
> book
> without permission. Not that I think anyone would make a Big Deal about
> it,
> I just mention it as a possibility.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

> Thanks, Richard. I've thought about the Copyright hence I'm not thinking
> about more than a few pages of an index for a published book. Now, I'm
> very leery of using Amazon.

If you verify what's out there, I'd go ahead and use it on a limited basis.
I just wouldn't post it to my Web site.

>
> So, what do I do for samples in the meantime? I now realize that I will
> need to index a few books I have that are without indexes and keep for
> samples.

I really don't think copyright is a Big Deal. Maybe ask one of your regular
clients if you can use a couple of pages as advertising material.

Or just go ahead and use a few pages. The worst that can happen (and I can't
even imagine it coming to that) is that the client finds out and politely
asks you not to do it again.

Remember, it's always easier to get forgiveness than permission.

Even if it's only 2 pages from a 300-page book? I would've thought
that falls well within fair use, since it's less than 10% of the book.

On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:44 AM, Richard Evans wrote:

> Also, if you send them samples from your files, you are technically
> violating the copyright of the publisher by reproducing a part of
> the book
> without permission.



Cheers,
Carol Roberts
http://www.RobertsIndexing.com
http://www.ArtWanted.com/CarolR

If you are in the habit of using group mailings to distribute jokes,
political messages, virus alerts, and the like, please take a moment
right now to remove me from your group. I don't care to receive that
kind of mail, and it's an invasion of my privacy to distribute my
address to strangers (to me) without my permission. Sorry to sound so
militant, but my wishes have not been respected much. Repeat
offenders will have their own addresses submitted to porn sites. ;-)



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Richard Evans wrote:
>
> Remember, it's always easier to get forgiveness than permission.
>
I have a feeling that people think there are many infringement lawsuits.
    I really don't think so. What I say to copyediting clients is: You
may never get a letter, e-mail, or phone call--but you really don't want
to have to deal with a change.

Publishers have to worry about infringement, because they make money on
each copy published. As indexers sharing an Amazon index file, we're
unlikely to profit enough from the act to generate a law suit. Besides,
the publishers pay to have the index displayed at Amazon. I suspect that
the marketing benefit of displaying an index with detailed book contents
far outweighs worries about lost income from a shared index by the
author of that index.

Does anyone here have information on how common copyright infringement
litigation is?


Pam Rider
Trying to walk cheerfully on the Earth

At 9/2/2009 12:57 PM, Carol wrote:
>Even if it's only 2 pages from a 300-page book? I would've thought
>that falls well within fair use, since it's less than 10% of the book.

But it's 2 pages from a 15-page index.  What then?

Joel

At 18:04 02/09/2009, Pam Rider wrote:
>Besides, the publishers pay to have the index displayed at Amazon.

Have you any evidence for this?

Certainly there is no mention of payment by the publisher on the
Amazon guidelines for the scheme on the Amazon website
<http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=13685751>

and I was not charged anything when I uploaded the text, content and
index for my book when it was available through Amazon, for which I
was the publisher.
Has the system now changed so that they are charging publishers?

James


--
James Lamb

At 18:18 02/09/2009, Joel S. Berson wrote:

>At 9/2/2009 12:57 PM, Carol wrote:
> >Even if it's only 2 pages from a 300-page book? I would've thought
> >that falls well within fair use, since it's less than 10% of the book.
>
>But it's 2 pages from a 15-page index. What then?

The situation is exactly the same - if you do not own the copyright
to something and you PUBLISH it, then you are in breach of the
copyright laws, even if it is only one line. You can then claim the
legal defense of "Fair Use", and whether the court will accept that
it is "Fair Use" or not depends on the mood of the court on that day.
It is nothing to do with the percentage, it is a matter of "the
amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the
copyrighted work as a whole "
<http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html>

If the publisher now owns the copyright to the index because you
signed a copyright transfer contract, and claim that it is 2 pages
out of 15, then they might claim it is substantial.

If you were working for the author, rather than the publisher, and
signed a transfer of copyright contract, then clearly the author
would hold the copyright anyway and not the publisher.

James


--
James Lamb

If/when I send a sample of my work, it's produced from my Cindex file -- not
from the published book.  So the sample is from the file I sent to the
client, as opposed to the published version, and is so identified to the
recipient.  If they want to see the  published version, it's up to them to
track the publication down from a bookstore or library.

I seriously doubt that there is any copyright risk involved, since I'm not
paranoid enough to worry about legal entrapment.  (Speaking a former
librarian who did a lot of library user education on copyright issues.)

Carolyn Weaver

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel S. Berson" <Berson@...>
To: <indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com>;
<indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [indexersdiscussionlist] Samples - What to do?


> At 9/2/2009 12:57 PM, Carol wrote:
>>Even if it's only 2 pages from a 300-page book? I would've thought
>>that falls well within fair use, since it's less than 10% of the book.
>
> But it's 2 pages from a 15-page index.  What then?
>
> Joel
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Ditto. Any sample I've ever sent is my .doc or  RTF file of an index.  I've
never used a link to Amazon, and don't see why  you should feel pressed to
do so.  I've had enough experience with clients  changing what I submitted
that I wouldn't trust what's on Amazon.  Amazon  links aren't always to the
current edition.  Too risky.

I'd say just  sent *your* file and be done with it.  Keep it  simple.

Janet

Janet Perlman
SOUTHWEST INDEXING

In a  message dated 9/2/2009 10:38:30 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cgweaver@... writes:
If/when I send a sample of my  work, it's produced from my Cindex file --
not
from the published book. So  the sample is from the file I sent to the
client, as opposed to the  published version, and is so identified to the
recipient. If they want to  see the published version, it's up to them to
track the publication down  from a bookstore or library.

I seriously doubt that there is any  copyright risk involved, since I'm not
paranoid enough to worry about legal  entrapment. (Speaking a former
librarian who did a lot of library user  education on copyright issues.)

Carolyn Weaver

----- Original  Message -----
From: "Joel S. Berson" <Berson@...>
To:  <indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com>;
<indexersdiscussionlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September  02, 2009 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [indexersdiscussionlist] Samples - What to  do?

> At 9/2/2009 12:57 PM, Carol wrote:
>>Even if it's only  2 pages from a 300-page book? I would've thought
>>that falls well  within fair use, since it's less than 10% of the book.
>
> But it's  2 pages from a 15-page index. What then?
>
>  Joel
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups  Links
>
>
>
>

At 18:34 02/09/2009 +0100, James Lamb wrote:
>It is nothing to do with the percentage

Not in law, but in Britain there used to be a statement issued by a
group of publishers (I think it was the Publishers' Association)
specifying what they would regard as fair use (i.e. wouldn't
prosecute for). 10% was the figure for prose works, if I remember
rightly.

It's some time since I needed to stay up to date with copyright
rules, however, and it may be that things have changed.


Linda Sutherland
linda.sutherland@...

At 18:34 02/09/2009 +0100, James Lamb wrote:

>If you were working for the author, rather than the publisher, and
>signed a transfer of copyright contract, then clearly the author
>would hold the copyright anyway and not the publisher.

In Britain, the publisher may hold copyright in the typography,
layout etc. of a published work


Linda Sutherland
linda.sutherland@...

Hello, everyone,

I've been lurking and reading posts for a few days and thought it was time to
post an introductory note.

I'm currently taking the Berkeley Extension indexing course, taught by Fred
Leise. I've been doing in-house indexing for a small publisher that does
primarily computer/techology training manuals for several years, but I'm ready
to branch out and start indexing different subject material. I'm also very ready
to find new clients and therefore not rely on a single source of income! I've
been doing minimal work while I stay at home with my kids for the past few
years, but now my youngest is off to preschool and it's time to start ramping
up. I'm taking the class primarily because I suspect that a lot of my
self-taught skills could use some honing. (Understatement.)

Glad to be here!

Jan Bednarczuk
jbednarczuk77@...

Thanks, James! I was certain wrong. I think the service is something
Amazon could charge for. Assumption is the mother of all screw-ups.

When I checked, Amazon used one of the most motivating English words: free.

James Lamb wrote:
> At 18:04 02/09/2009, Pam Rider wrote:
>> Besides, the publishers pay to have the index displayed at Amazon.
>
> Have you any evidence for this?
>
> Certainly there is no mention of payment by the publisher on the
> Amazon guidelines for the scheme on the Amazon website
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=13685751>
>
> and I was not charged anything when I uploaded the text, content and
> index for my book when it was available through Amazon, for which I
> was the publisher.
> Has the system now changed so that they are charging publishers?
>
> James
>
>
> --
> James Lamb
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>


--
Best,
Pam Rider
Trying to walk cheerfully on the Earth

The 2 pages are part of the book. The index isn't a separate
publication any more than the first chapter is.


On Sep 2, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Joel S. Berson wrote:

> At 9/2/2009 12:57 PM, Carol wrote:
>> Even if it's only 2 pages from a 300-page book? I would've thought
>> that falls well within fair use, since it's less than 10% of the
>> book.
>
> But it's 2 pages from a 15-page index.  What then?
>
> Joel
>
>


Cheers,
Carol Roberts
http://www.RobertsIndexing.com
http://www.ArtWanted.com/CarolR

If you are in the habit of using group mailings to distribute jokes,
political messages, virus alerts, and the like, please take a moment
right now to remove me from your group. I don't care to receive that
kind of mail, and it's an invasion of my privacy to distribute my
address to strangers (to me) without my permission. Sorry to sound so
militant, but my wishes have not been respected much. Repeat
offenders will have their own addresses submitted to porn sites. ;-)



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For samples, on my website, I have links to three files. These are excerpts of
index files as I sent them to the publishers (say, letters G-M or something like
that). I assume, perhaps naively, that since it isn't the whole index that this
would come under fair use. I did not ask permission. I'm not worried about using
these partial indexes, but I'll deal with any trouble if and when it arises.

I only have one correct Amazon link to post, which is on my samples page as
well. One other book of mine also has an index on Amazon, but the index link
goes to an entirely different volume of the book series! As others have said,
it's important to check all your Amazon links!

- Shana Milkie