It looks pretty good. I noticed in the chapter on Lean Thinking
it warns the reader not to confuse anything that uses a Japanese term to
be part of the Lean Think & tools. IN particular it seems to say that
the stuff on Queuing theory and bacthes is all well and good, but isnt
specifically part of Lean as put forth by TPS (he does acknowledge that
the Poppendieck's explicitly call out queuing theory in their work)
Larman then goes on to explicitly discuss KanBan Sw-Dev as proposed by
David et.al. and how it is really not an example of "Lean" and doesnt
optimize things the way that "Lean" would (or perhaps I am
misunderstanding and misstating?)
I'm wondering if anyone else here has had a chance to read that section
of the book (its only been on the shelves for a week) and whether or not
they wanted to comment/explain on this section of it.
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... I tried to read the XP chapter in Larmen's other book and didn't get past the first 5 pages. He said "Once an Iteration starts, no stories can be changed...
... In fairness, I seem to recall that back in the XP1E days the "Shu" stage rule was that stories shouldn't be changed (if you mean changing the content of a...
I have not read the book but.... Might it be worth inviting Creaig and Bas to a discussion on this list? ... From: Brad Appleton <Brad.Appleton@...> ...
Geez! The length a guy will go to insure I need to buy his book and read a chapter of it :-p ;-) Those of you who were involved will remember that Bas Vodde...
... I'll try when I get back to the office (where my copy of the book is at the moment). I wont be able to transcribe the whole thing (it is at least a few...
I have not read the book but.... Might it be worth inviting Creaig and Bas to a discussion on this list? ... From: Brad Appleton <Brad.Appleton@...> ...
Hello, This is just war for territory! Just ignore and continue ;-) With kind regards, Koen 2008/12/17 Brad Appleton <Brad.Appleton@...> ... -- Koen Van...
I tend to agree with Koen. I'm not particularly worried about this. We know these techniques work. We know that folks in the wider lean community value them...
... Just to be clear, the book didnt say that. It said that just because something uses a Japanese term, does NOT mean it necessarily comes from Lean as...
Hello, We should use the Lean books as inspiration, but not as dogmatic bibles. The problem is that the software and hardware are very different beasts. The...
Okay - I have the book in front of me. Starting on page 84 it says ... One problem in lean adoptions is to assume a practice labeled from the ... This problem...
None of this sounds like anything we need to get excited about. David http://www.agilemanagement.net/ ... lean-sounding ... under the ... [Anderson07]. Note ...
This example applies queue management to improve (by limiting the queue size and WIP) an existing *serial *perspective on development. But is queue management...
err...I was agreeing with David, and not with the quote. Try again... None of this sounds like anything we need to get excited about. Agreed. This example...
Please, please, please Let us invite them to the group to chat about their book. Pretty please. ... From: "Matt" <maswaffer@...> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008...
I seem to have lost Craig's email address. Might be on an older computer. I'll try to find it and invite him to join. ... <mailto:kanbandev%40yahoogroups.com>,...
Hi all, Interesting discussion... especially since Brad seems to be the only one who read it :) Thanks to Christoph, I'm here now, for now... Bas ... ...
Hi, Are you sure you actually want to read it? I mean, you already decided its bad and just "war for territory". It was obviously written so that you will buy...
Bas, Welcome to the group... Nobody minds strong opinions here, and very few are afraid to wade in. ;) As Joshua said, lots of good talk and good people here,...
I've read the section of the book which mention Kanban (it is on Oreilly's Safari service which has free trials available) through it's critique of David's...
Hi Benjamin, Thanks for this. I'll take a look on Safari when I find some time. Quick question for you or Bas, is that it? It's a critique based on one...
Hi, It is not a critique of one article, but I wouldn't waste my time on it anyways! :P (wonder why I've wasted a lot of energy writing this mail) I have read...
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