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Lean / Kanban Conference - The hangover   Message List  
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Re: Lean / Kanban Conference - The hangover

(1) As Corey pointed out on Twitter - lots of Cumulative Flow diagrams, very few
control charts. This indicates that while Kanban teams can get to high maturity,
very few are there yet. I want to encourage this trend and get more teams to a
Quantitatively Managed state of maturity. Alisson Vale and Phidelis are
definitely there - even though they aren't using control charts.

(2) Classes of Service and Risk Management are the big important topics going
forward. Dean Leffingwell's language of "allocate rather than prioritize"
resonated with me and better articulates what I'd been saying about setting WIP
limits on classes of service. Lots more to come on this topic going forward...

David

--- In kanbandev@yahoogroups.com, "chrismatts1968" <chrismatts1968@...> wrote:
>
> Mike Cottmeyer has done a great set of blog posts that summarise the
conference. (
http://www.leadingagile.com/2009/05/lk2009-alan-shalloway-closing-keynote.html
Look at the Blog history bottom/right ).
>
> For those who attended, I would be grateful if you could share the one or two
nuggets that you took away from the conference. I'm hoping people picked up
different things.
>
> A lurker and listener.
>





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The best of both worlds! Technology + life lessons in one place! :-) ... On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Karl Scotland...
Brandon Carlson
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(1) As Corey pointed out on Twitter - lots of Cumulative Flow diagrams, very few control charts. This indicates that while Kanban teams can get to high...
David J Anderson
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May 11, 2009
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Caution to all who used twitter to document the conference, the medium is ephemeral. Searches for a tag only go back for about a month or two. So if there is...
Mark Levison
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May 11, 2009
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Thanks! We should extract the RSS and store it on the web site....
David J Anderson
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... What is a control chart?...
chrismatts1968
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... A tool to help seperate out special cause from common cause variation within a process A far better description than I could provide is here: ...
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Hey Chris, You should check out this great "World Wide Website" called www.google.com. It's really cool. It lets you type in a word or a phrase and it lists a ...
David Peterson
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May 12, 2009
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David P This is indeed a wikipedia page about "Control Charts". I would love to know why we would expect them to appear at a Kanban conference. These...
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Hello, chrismatts1968. On Tuesday, May 12, 2009, at 8:12:54 AM, ... Dunno, certainly. Yet: a control chart, as I understand it, is an assessment of the...
Ron Jeffries
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Good question :-) I think the idea is to put cycle time under control, so that you can see the effects of changes you make, and reduce the tendency to meddle...
David Peterson
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Yes, indeed, Ron! And by knowing this kind of information we can know whether we are planning a change to the system or implementing a prevention measure to...
David J Anderson
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Hi, I've posted a blog post about my experiences using Control (Capability - John Seddon / Vanguard Consulting use this name) charts on my Kanban project: ...
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Very impressive! :-)...
David J Anderson
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John First off, thank you for putting the post in the e:mail as well. Makes it so much easier for those of us using PDAs. Most places I go they use Control...
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Control charts are a tool for understanding data. The art is in what you choose to measure. "Uses control charts" is not a sign of anything. "Used control...
Corey Ladas
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Sometimes looking at the extreme values can give you valuable information too.. I noticed Benjamin that one of your extreme data points regarded pile up of...
Mattias Skarin
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... John Tukey's (*) wonderful _Exploratory Data Analysis_(**) talks at length about the value of analyzing outliers before looking at the central tendency. As...
Brian Marick
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Be careful talking about distribution and control charts. Control charts do not use a normal distribution or the standard deviation confidence intervals. They...
David J Anderson
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Huh. Thanks for the correction. I could have sworn I learned it was a normal distribution. ... Brian Marick, independent consultant Mostly on agile methods...
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Chris, What you would be looking for is consistency in some process. For example, charting story points delivered (done/done) per sprint is a useful chart. If...
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Control Charts are at the heart of Deming's Theory/System of Profound Knowledge. As Deming and his system were often referred to by speakers and are at the...
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Does that mean they should? Sent from my iPhone On 12 May 2009, at 18:08, "David J Anderson" <netherby_uk@...>...
Chris
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I think this is a very good question. I think we had an email discussion about this a while back, but to recast it: If one doesn't buy into Deming's Theory,...
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I think a team can realize a good sized portion of the benefit without going back to deming, but eventually they will embrace the systems thinking. I think...
Eric Willeke
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To Eric's point, I do have teams embracing Kanban on their own. And agree with his assessment regarding Deming and Kanban. As teams at SEP...
Chris Shinkle
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Thanks for the feedback. I am highly, highly....'skeptical'...for lack of a better word... of Deming's System of Profound Knowledge (just to raise one point,...
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I sympathize with your skepticism. I think flow has an intrinsic logic that stands on its own. I also find many useful tools and ideas within Deming, but I...
Corey Ladas
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I think Deming is the fundamental thinking under Lean. Toyota basically added Just-in-Time and autonomation to it. Some of his 14 points (particularly about...
Alan Shalloway
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... Chris Could you provide a good reference for Deming. David has mentioned the New Economics on a couple of occasions. Chris...
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I have enjoyed reading the following Deming books. The first one is an older book, but a great synopsis of Deming's philosophy. The second book is ...
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