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How to handle strict deadlines in a kanban?   Message List  
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Re: [kanbandev] How to handle strict deadlines in a kanban?

No matter how the work is scheduled, your best-case one-piece-flow cycle
time is a lower bound.

If a deadline falls within the normal variation of lead time, then you
can mark the date on the kanban and schedule it in the usual way.

Otherwise, there are a couple of expediting strategies you might apply
to time critical tasks. The lesser is to jump to the head of the input
queue and then be treated like a normal ticket. The greater is the
"silver bullet" expedited kanban:

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kanbandev/message/68

Beyond that, any single work request is subject to the same kind of
"cone of uncertainty" as any other software estimation. Kanban smooths
out the aggregate, but the individual work request may still vary
widely. Parallel/redundant (i.e. set-based) work requests can further
smooth out scheduling uncertainty, at the cost of some...redundancy.

Corey


Martin Schapendonk wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I like the idea of a kanban system, especially in the 'sustained
> engineering' context, as discussed on this list. I haven't tried it in
> practice, and I still have some questions.
>
> Suppose a change request has serious legal consequences if it hasn't
> been implemented by date X. How does a kanban software development
> team handle such a request? As I understand it, a request enters the
> first queue and every 'station' along the way tries to deliver as soon
> as possible.
>
> But how do I know (or how can the team commit) that 'as soon as
> possible' is soon enough to meet date X?
>
> Regards,
> Martin
>
> --
> Martin Schapendonk, http://www.schapendonk.org/blog/
> <http://www.schapendonk.org/blog/>
>
>




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Hi all, I like the idea of a kanban system, especially in the 'sustained engineering' context, as discussed on this list. I haven't tried it in practice, and I...
Martin Schapendonk
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Jan 31, 2008
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No matter how the work is scheduled, your best-case one-piece-flow cycle time is a lower bound. If a deadline falls within the normal variation of lead time,...
Corey Ladas
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Jan 31, 2008
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OK, sounds good. As you mentioned, work requests can vary greatly in size. When does a kanban team estimate the size of a work request? Is any effort spend on...
Martin Schapendonk
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Feb 1, 2008
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Not sure if this is helpful Martin, but we are trying to estimate each work item using a point system. This is more to help the team understand work in the...
Landes Eric (CI/AMM1-...
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Feb 1, 2008
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Eric, thanks for your comments. I'm familiar with the point system and planning poker. But, I know it in relation to Scrum, with fixed sprint length. IMHO,...
Martin Schapendonk
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Feb 1, 2008
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Hello Martin, There are a couple of schools of thought about estimation. Each has its own +/-. 1. Threshold + kanban limit Work-in-process is limited...
Corey Ladas
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Feb 1, 2008
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Martin, Sorry for the delay in the reply. We use the points combined with our completion dates to right now for a good cycle time estimate (we're mainly using...
Landes Eric (CI/AMM1-...
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Feb 6, 2008
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Hi Martin The great thing about the situation you describe is that you know the date that the system needs to be delivered into production on. This falls into ...
Chris Matts
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Feb 1, 2008
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Adding to the general thread (having read all the posts)... It's worth mentioning that if the request is really urgent the "expedite" (or silver bullet)...
David J Anderson
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Feb 2, 2008
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Everybody thanks for the valuable comments. Although it does sound interesting, I won't have the opportunity to visit Dallas in a few weeks time (The...
Martin Schapendonk
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Feb 5, 2008
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Well, I try to be careful about what I'm "in favor of," as I am in favor of whatever makes the most sense for the capability of the team in question. I would...
Corey Ladas
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