During moments of ire, do customers generally say, "You promised me we'd have that in our hands in 10 business days!" or "You promised me we'd have that in...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Sep 29, 2011 7:19 pm
I should be more clear. I agree with you, because I think that for most customers (especially consumers/end-users) the weekend days do matter. However, there...
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RonJeffries
ronaldejeffries
Sep 29, 2011 7:38 pm
Seems to me that customers, willy-nilly, care about dates when things are going to happen. I suspect the weekend topic is kind of irrelevant to the provision...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Sep 29, 2011 7:54 pm
The math should work no matter how you define a day (As long as your days occur regularly and a day is somewhat smaller than a cycle,) but I believe there is...
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sebas zegadex
sebaszegadex
Sep 29, 2011 8:20 pm
A thought just came to me... Why do not create a table of indicators of the cicle time, whit the rows "indicator", "what does it tell", "what kind of company...
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Nick Korbel
nickkorbel
Sep 29, 2011 8:20 pm
... This is one of our motivations for counting calendar days, as well. It's also much simpler to look at cycle time over time and not have to figure out how...
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john.sextro@...
jcsextro
Sep 29, 2011 8:20 pm
Friends, The importance of measuring cycle time is NOT to fill out pretty charts to stick on the wall. The reason we track cycle time is to measure velocity...
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fadfreedev
Sep 29, 2011 8:21 pm
Hi All, I read both Conways law and Fred Brooks as saying "software development doesn't scale very well". The communication overhead needed to maintain a fully...
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Helen Wu
bhwu98
Sep 29, 2011 9:13 pm
"Nine women, one baby" may be effective in the purpose of a mindset correction; Conways law is artifical and can be fixed when the root causes are gone. ....
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Eb
amaeze77
Sep 29, 2011 9:23 pm
Hi Helen - How does one fix a "law"? Are you saying that systems can be built that don't reflect the communication structure of the organizations that created...
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Helen Wu
bhwu98
Sep 29, 2011 9:28 pm
From: Eb <amaeze@...> To: kanbandev@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [kanbandev] Nine women, one baby. Hi Helen...
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David Anderson
netherby_uk
Sep 29, 2011 9:38 pm
I'd like to congratulate Erika and Oscar at Atos (a consulting firm in Spain) for their work with BBVA in Madrid, Barcelona and Argentina that led to them...
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Eb
amaeze77
Sep 30, 2011 12:31 am
i think your answer went in the subject. anyway. i'm not sure i still understand you. i think one has to accept a law or not. and if not, indicate where/when...
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Siddharta Govindaraj
photon_ent
Sep 30, 2011 3:04 am
The communication graph only becomes prohibitive if everyone needs to communicate with everyone else. This is why organizations are split into hierarchical...
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Siddharta Govindaraj
photon_ent
Sep 30, 2011 3:41 am
... This logic isn't correct. If the average engineering lead time is 5 days, then generally speaking you will only have 50% on-time delivery if you start on...
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kurtmit81
Sep 30, 2011 4:09 am
Since we borrowed Kanban from the manufacturing world, I suggest we look at how they handle the same thing. They measure cycle time in M-Days (Manufacturing...
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Helen Wu
bhwu98
Sep 30, 2011 4:55 am
Hi, Eb. Sorry for my previous incomplete answer. Yes, my answer to *How does one fix a "law"? * went to subject instead. my answer is by invalidating its...
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Siddharta Govindaraj
photon_ent
Sep 30, 2011 5:42 am
... In manufacturing, variability is low. Whereas in software development it is very high. A bug fix could vary as much as 10 minutes to one month, with the ...
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Adam Sroka
adamjaph
Sep 30, 2011 5:51 am
/If/ variability is high enough and/or the average cycle time is long enough that it could be measured in weeks then whether or not you include weekends is...
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Alan Shalloway
alshalloway
Sep 30, 2011 6:46 am
I want to point out there is a difference between a law (e.g., gravity) and an observation of correlated behavior. Conways “law” is really a pattern of...
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Siddharta Govindaraj
photon_ent
Sep 30, 2011 7:15 am
... With one correction: Generally speaking (note: not always) average time is the mid point - you will end up 50% before time & 50% late deliveries. Most...
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Eb
amaeze77
Sep 30, 2011 11:54 am
Hi Helen - interesting. i don't consider Conway's law to be a bad/good thing but just an observation of human interaction and how it generally impacts system...
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Andrew Pham
andrewpham74
Sep 30, 2011 2:28 pm
David, This is great to hear! !Congratulacion a Erika y Oscar para un trabajo de alta calidad! Best regards, Andrew Pham Author of *Scrum in Action*, *Agile...
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Rafael Silva
rsilvam21
Sep 30, 2011 8:31 pm
Hi Juan, Si hablas espaol, de seguro me har entender mejor. En el caso de nuestro Bugs en la columna de TEST lo que hacemos es bloquear la tarea con una...
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Juan Ignacio Onetto
jonetto1978
Sep 30, 2011 9:41 pm
Congratulations!. Hope someday, Argentina has some significant representation also in the Kanban community J. De: kanbandev@yahoogroups.com...
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Juan Ignacio Onetto
jonetto1978
Sep 30, 2011 9:47 pm
Joseph, Eb, It seems that at the end what makes the different for us the consultants is customer mindset and understanding of how to conceive a plan at it...
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Eb
amaeze77
Sep 30, 2011 10:26 pm
Hi Juan - Having a successful partnership requires understanding from both sides IMO. In my experience, I've had to find something that the customer could...
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Rafael Silva
rsilvam21
Sep 30, 2011 10:58 pm
Hi, In Kanban certainly there is no Epic, because there is no prescription about funcionalities divisions sizes. Regards Rafael Silva Hi, In Kanban...
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Juan Ignacio Onetto
jonetto1978
Sep 30, 2011 11:16 pm
Thanks Eb for sharing! I am not sure though if this is topic for this list for not being 100% related with Kanban and more with consultancy services, however,...
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jdn3times
Oct 1, 2011 12:59 am
"Our challenge would be to deal to customers that don't want or are not opened to learn something new." Perhaps I am not parsing this sentence properly, so...
