See your graph, it also makes me realize we should standardize on the positions of the axes to make visual comparison easier. Thanks for being (AFAIK) the...
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HÃ¥kan Forss
hakan_forss
Jul 13, 2012 1:11 am
I think the Kiveat-style diagram is a very useful visualization for a relative depth of a single Kanban implementation. But I am not sure if it is a useful...
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David Anderson
netherby_uk
Jul 13, 2012 1:16 am
I now refer to these as the core practices. Core properties is a reference to complex adaptive systems and the necessary starting conditions for adaptation to...
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David Anderson
netherby_uk
Jul 13, 2012 1:19 am
I'm working with a Kanban initiative leader and recent 3-day class attendee from the investment backing / trading floor space on the concept of "Real...
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David Anderson
netherby_uk
Jul 13, 2012 1:21 am
It is a great price but I really don't want to travel in the summer. I already have to make a trip to Brazil and I've reluctantly decided to miss CALM Beta. I...
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David Anderson
netherby_uk
Jul 13, 2012 1:24 am
Good point! It's a good thing that we allow for some variation within the standard definition in the LKU curriculum. Context is important. I'm going to be...
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Martin Aspeli
optilude
Jul 13, 2012 7:54 am
Hi David, ... In my experience, one of the biggest problems project leaders and team members have in complex environments is just getting a handle of what's ...
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Robillard, Michael
iwbipny
Jul 13, 2012 3:15 pm
David et al, I'm a great believer in this type of visualization for quickly getting the "gist" of state. I've seen them used a lot in assessing organization...
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David Anderson
netherby_uk
Jul 13, 2012 3:57 pm
Martin, I think your story underscores why I've encouraged gentle Kanban adoption and not insisted that there must be a kanban system in place initially in...
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Tony Lew
sankwon
Jul 13, 2012 3:58 pm
I think coming up with measurements and then putting it in radar diagram (I've never heard of Kiveat style diagram. Â Radar is what is used in Excel) Â rocks...
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David Anderson
netherby_uk
Jul 13, 2012 5:06 pm
It was Rich Turner that told me these are known as Kiveat diagrams when used in multi-dimensional risk assessment. If Excel calls them "radar" charts that is...
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David Anderson
netherby_uk
Jul 13, 2012 5:08 pm
Work = work items, i.e. customer demand...
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Tony Lew
sankwon
Jul 13, 2012 7:46 pm
I'm not sure if they can do multiple scales in Excel but it might make sense to standarize the scales across all dimensions for simplicity anyway. You could...
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David Anderson
netherby_uk
Jul 13, 2012 8:07 pm
I think this is very dangerous. I want the scales to qualitative in nature and use taxonomies. I fear that the graphing tool will dictate the solution and it...
15793
iwbipny
Jul 13, 2012 8:46 pm
Good points made about both the questionable desirability of reaching a certain depth and the difference between acknowledging potential misuse from ignoring...
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Tony Lew
sankwon
Jul 13, 2012 10:43 pm
For 3 kanban kata, instead of 1, 2, 3, you. Have 1, 3, 7. If there are more than 7 things to track, have distribute the weight evenly. So if 14 things, each...
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dmhwhite
Jul 14, 2012 3:38 pm
I think what has been discovered is a new way to visualize kanban maturity. Hats off to the #klrat group that acknowledged parallel development/growth of...
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David Anderson
netherby_uk
Jul 14, 2012 8:28 pm
Tony, I accept that we can even up the scales on the axes. I am very afraid of people calculating "overall scores." I am not convinced this is a useful idea...
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David Anderson
netherby_uk
Jul 14, 2012 8:59 pm
Dave, Wise words! As we've learned over the last 5 years, gently does it. Now we have this concept and tool we need to gather stories of their usage before we...
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Karl Scotland
kjscotland
Jul 16, 2012 12:20 pm
Not having been able to attend KLRAT, I'm wondering whether the risk to innovation was discussed at all? Could the definition of steps in each scale lead to...
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David Anderson
netherby_uk
Jul 16, 2012 10:55 pm
Karl, The ticks on each axis were not discussed at all at KLRAT, there wasn't time. What I presented last week is my own work building on the KLRAT work, and...
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Håkan Forss
hakan_forss
Jul 16, 2012 11:24 pm
Karl, Yes we had a short discussion in the session of the danger of making the steps and/or scales explicit. When I first drew the spider chart I added tick...
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Janice Linden-Reed
JLinden
Jul 18, 2012 1:07 am
Some kiviat diagrams have been posted on the Limited WIP Society site here: http://limitedwipsociety.ning.com/photo/albums/kiviat-diagrams-depth-of-kanban It...
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Manuel Mazan
manuelmazan
Jul 18, 2012 4:35 am
Hello there, Within my organization I have taken Kanban to software development, HR, operations and now I´m facing the tough one: project portfolio...
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Mike Burrows
asplake
Jul 18, 2012 8:34 am
HI Manuel, A traditional approach (not in itself a bad one) would be to visualise committed effort by month or by week in a column chart. That should give you...
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Kurt Häusler
kurt.haeusler
Jul 18, 2012 8:41 am
My rough thoughts on the matter are based on how the decision to commit to a project is made. If the decision to commit to a project can be made quickly, on...
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Manuel Mazan
manuelmazan
Jul 18, 2012 4:52 pm
Hi Mike Thanks for your reply, perhaps would have been useful to mention that this is a professsional service firm managing a number of software projects for a...
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Manuel Mazan
manuelmazan
Jul 18, 2012 5:07 pm
Thanks for the reply Kurt, because this is a professional services team working with external clients we cannot let teams or people pull up projects and start...
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Ram Srinivasan
ram_eagle2k
Jul 22, 2012 3:02 pm
I was quite fascinated about how people use the plane game to teach different agile/kanban concepts. http://tastycupcakes.org/2011/07/agile-airplanes/ ...
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Christen McLemore
mschrismac
Jul 23, 2012 12:54 pm
Theory of Constraints is actually the purpose of the game but I also use it to demonstrate how the team goes through the process of adjusting WIP, team...
