Two additions. MIT's Lean Advancement Initiative has been a consortium (until the end of 2012). Consortium members are listed on their website ( ...
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Doug Boling
doug_hogman_...
Sep 3, 2012 4:07 am
I am sitting here watching the U.S. Open tennis tournament late on a Sunday night. I just looked up during a change over and noticed a commercial honoring the...
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Joseph Hurtado
trumpetflickr
Sep 3, 2012 5:15 am
Doug, Great quote, I believe excellence in sports, or any area of life will reveal the principles of Kanban. Besides Tennis here is one from a guy before Mr....
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Edward Kay
edkay10
Sep 3, 2012 10:36 am
Hi Hakan, I've been implementing Kanban and more generally Lean principles for managing software projects at Torchbox, a UK web agency with a focus on ...
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Karl Scotland
kjscotland
Sep 3, 2012 12:10 pm
Hi Mahesh, I /was/ meaning Trello would be a fit for achieving the grander benefits of Kanban on the basis that I believe visualisation alone can be enough for...
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Alan Baljeu
alanbaljeu
Sep 3, 2012 1:33 pm
We just measure things daily and chart things by hand. For a small team this is easy, and Trello could serve.  Alan Baljeu From: Karl Scotland...
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johnnybusca
Sep 3, 2012 2:49 pm
Same here. Jeroen Knoops ... Same here. Jeroen Knoops On Sep 3, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Alan Baljeu < alanbaljeu@... > wrote: We just measure things daily and...
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Karl Scotland
kjscotland
Sep 3, 2012 3:38 pm
Adding to what Janice has said... The LSSC reorganised as the Lean Systems Society earlier this year. Part of that re-organisation was the decision not to put...
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Jim Benson
ourfounder872
Sep 3, 2012 4:36 pm
I'm really confused by this conversation. Metrics are nice to have, but are often not necessary and confounding. Trello is something you can do a kanban on. It...
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Celso Martins
celsoavmartins
Sep 3, 2012 4:40 pm
Jim, I'm sorry, but how do you improve without metrics? Can you improve what you do not see? I see metrics as must to have and not nice to have, IMHO. Regards!...
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Jim Benson
ourfounder872
Sep 3, 2012 5:09 pm
The board is metrics. Charts and graphs should be applied in context and should not be regularly consulted. Charts and graphs are not visualizations of action...
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Adrian Howard
ajh65537
Sep 3, 2012 5:13 pm
... I am looking at my $work board right now. I can see that I have three cards that are blocked. With a WIP limit of four on that particular column I can see...
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Tony Lew
sankwon
Sep 3, 2012 5:20 pm
$ Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ... From: Jim Benson <jim@...> Sender: kanbandev@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:51:19 To:...
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Jim Benson
ourfounder872
Sep 3, 2012 5:31 pm
Yes, with the card counter extension in Chrome, this does work. It's a pretty cool extension. -- *Jim Benson* Collaborative Management ...
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Jim Benson
ourfounder872
Sep 3, 2012 5:32 pm
Adrian, I was remiss in not buying you a drink in Texas. Jim -- *Jim Benson* Collaborative Management <http://moduscooperandi.com/> Modus Cooperandi...
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Celso Martins
celsoavmartins
Sep 3, 2012 5:36 pm
Ok, but how do you know what was a good decision and what wasn't? How do you know which WiP limit better fits your context? The average lead time doesn't help...
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Adrian Howard
ajh65537
Sep 3, 2012 5:41 pm
... You introduced me to the Lean Coffee format so you're forgiven :-) Cheers, Adrian -- http://quietstars.com adrianh@... twitter.com/adrianh...
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Jim Benson
ourfounder872
Sep 3, 2012 6:04 pm
Interesting, While I agree that looking at metrics are a sign of immaturity, I would say that you are over-emphasizing the process health and under estimating...
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Eric Willeke
erwilleke
Sep 3, 2012 6:19 pm
Ceslo, I've found that the earlier steps tend to resemble the five focusing steps of the theory of constraints [1], where the visualizations and policies are ...
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Celso Martins
celsoavmartins
Sep 3, 2012 6:31 pm
Inline... Atenciosamente, Celso Martins Blog <http://celsoavmartins.blogspot.com> ICA-TI <http://www.ica-ti.com.br/> RioAgile...
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Robert Swanbum
rswany79...
Sep 3, 2012 6:40 pm
People that are usually against metrics are people who don’t like to be measured. Numbers do tell a story and many times it’s a story that doesn’t want...
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Jim Benson
ourfounder872
Sep 3, 2012 6:58 pm
Robert, What researchers are finding is that you don't have torture numbers at all for them to tell an incorrect story. In one study, researchers put a group...
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Adam Yuret
adamyuret
Sep 3, 2012 9:06 pm
I agree with Jim on this point, metrics are very important but it's also very important to be prepared to reassess and abandon those metrics when context calls...
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Robert Swanbum
rswany79...
Sep 3, 2012 9:06 pm
I think your examples are way on the other end of the spectrum. I guess in the spirit of an election year… J Your examples would have room for ...
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David Anderson
netherby_uk
Sep 3, 2012 9:52 pm
Lovely quote Doug. Thanks for sharing. Are you also aware that we use the US Open as a bad example (in comparison to Wimbledon) of risk management and...
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Eb
amaeze77
Sep 3, 2012 10:18 pm
I believe the point here is that the interpretation of a trailing measure aka metric is always subject to subjective interpretation (excuse the pun) even when...
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amigo.paraense
Sep 4, 2012 7:15 am
I guess I finally managed to make my profile visible. Nevertheless, I am a bit disappointed with the way you handled my question. Here is why: 1) I don't think...
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Adrian Howard
ajh65537
Sep 4, 2012 10:06 am
Hey Jim, On 3 Sep 2012, at 17:36, Jim Benson <jim@...> wrote: [snip] ... [snip] I think it's an emotional issue for me - sorry about that :-) I think...
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Doug Boling
doug_hogman_...
Sep 4, 2012 10:25 am
Yeah, yeah, I know. I have been pretty ticked at them as well over the years. After all, September is right in the peak of Hurrican season so it really isn't...
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Adrian Howard
ajh65537
Sep 4, 2012 10:30 am
Hi Celso, ... If it was good decision we'll see things improve (fewer cards in WIP, fewer cards blocked). If it wasn't, we won't. We encourage everybody to...