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5369 rob_hathaway74 Offline Send Email Sep 1, 2009
8:43 am
Alan, My experience has actually been the opposite to your description ;-) I've found many Scrum teams are more focussed on the process than on the team...they...
5370 Alan Shalloway
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Sep 1, 2009
2:08 pm
Rob: thanks. I think this may be an orthogonal issue to what I am looking for. Or too subtle a one. The Kanban teams I have seen get very concerned about how...
5371 Chris Shinkle
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Sep 2, 2009
6:39 pm
I recently read a blog post by Mark Graban<http://www.leanblog.org/2009/08/two-types-of-cycle-time-confusing.html>titled "Two Types of Cycle Time". In the...
5372 Akbar Zamir
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Sep 2, 2009
9:35 pm
2009/9/2 Chris Shinkle <cmshinkle@...> [SNIP] ... Hello Chris, Indeed: this very topic got kicked around recently - see here: ...
5373 Chris Shinkle
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Sep 3, 2009
12:17 am
My apologies... thanks Akbar for pointing me to that thread. I'll be sure to read it....
5374 deano84tiger Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2009
1:26 pm
Here are definitions from Lean Thinking by Womack. I figure this is a good place to start. Using an established common language can only promote understanding....
5375 dennisstevens Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2009
1:54 pm
I like the distinction of development cycle time and lead time. From a customer perspective I typically include wait time within the development team in...
5376 heusserm Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2009
2:44 pm
It think if you're an IT shop and can continuously deploy, you care about lead time. If your a shrinkwrap shop, ship a CD, download a .exe file, etc, and want...
5377 Derick Bailey
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Sep 3, 2009
3:41 pm
In Steve McConnel's Code Complete 2nd Edition, page 29 & 30 (and probably others), he talks about the cost of finding defects in a software system... how much...
5378 emil_vikstrom Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2009
3:54 pm
Pretty consistent with what I wrote in this message: http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/kanbandev/message/5337 That is: Lead time = for any process: the...
5379 heusserm Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2009
3:56 pm
... I know of /no/ studies that /ever/ looked at this problem with construct validity. ( Ref: http://www.kaner.com/pdfs/metrics2004.pdf ) Most of the original...
5380 Derick Bailey
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Sep 3, 2009
4:35 pm
... i certainly won't argue with that. so, assuming that the numbers are even relatively good... :) ... good questions. if we build on top of broken or...
5381 emil_vikstrom Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2009
4:38 pm
Hypothesis: 1) The cost of finding defects have a non-linear relation to time 2) This cost is related to the lenght of the feedback loop. Shorter feedback...
5382 Alan Shalloway
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Sep 3, 2009
4:56 pm
Emil: I agree with the hypothesis. But I respectfully disagree with the Kanban does not prescribe short feedback loops. Kanban is based on shortening cycle...
5383 emil_vikstrom Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2009
4:57 pm
Cost of finding a defect should decrease with shorter testing feedback loops Kanban does not prescribe testing at all. Thus should not affect this cost. The...
5384 emil_vikstrom Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2009
5:03 pm
Great I have learned something today then! Kanban with K means more than I knew. Have you also abolished the thought that Kanban is not a process? Should I get...
5385 David Peterson
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Sep 3, 2009
5:50 pm
Kanban certainly helps because it drives down lead-times, which means bug-fixes can be turned around quickly. If users know that after they report a defect it...
5386 Matt Heusser
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Sep 3, 2009
5:54 pm
Posit: Fixing bug as you go, instead of batching them, improves the overall economy. KanBan can help with this in that it encourages individual assignments ...
5387 David Peterson
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Sep 3, 2009
6:11 pm
I think you're right about large batches vs fixing as you go. I have to say I wish you wouldn't capitalise the B. The world and his trousers spell it with a...
5388 emil_vikstrom Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2009
6:19 pm
Didn't Ohno say that you shouldn't codify process? (will check tomorrow, anyone got the book in reach?) Isn't that exactly what we are doing? Do we not risk...
5389 Alan Shalloway
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Sep 3, 2009
7:11 pm
In lean process is extremely codified and extremely changeable. Ohno says if you are doing the same process 30 days from now management is not doing their...
5390 dennisstevens Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2009
7:28 pm
Taiichi Ohno asserted that method must not be codified. He claimed improvement is never-ending – and by writing it down, the process becomes crystallized. He...
5391 emil_vikstrom Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2009
7:34 pm
yep From my point of view it sometimes looks like we are codifying the workflow signaling tool kanban into Kanban which prescribes other software-dev...
5392 emil_vikstrom Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2009
7:42 pm
What Ohno meant with that is wise though. Kanban helps us see and do a lot of great stuff but in my opinion those things should not be codified into a Kanban...
5393 dennisstevens Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2009
7:49 pm
<I-Think> The tools for understanding are going to be pretty common. Identify/Subordinate/Elevate the Constraint, Identify/Eliminate the Waste, Manage Risk,...
5394 dches369 Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2009
11:53 pm
I've set up a kanban for an authoring process where we've mapped our stages in the workflow on a white board. One stage is clearly our bottleneck becomes items...
5395 Derick Bailey
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Sep 4, 2009
2:21 am
... I think you nailed it, Dean. I re-read some of the definitions from this thread and the previous one, and some of the source material today. it turns out...
5396 JLinden Offline Send Email Sep 4, 2009
6:27 am
Hi Dennis, ... I agree with this but still struggle with how to make the lead time indicator useful. Let's say that I get a feature request from Marketing via...
5397 yannpdem Offline Send Email Sep 4, 2009
8:32 am
I don't have any clear answer, but maybe you can find some valuable ideas along these lines: - "Nine women don't make a baby in one month": authoring may be...
5398 rob_hathaway74 Offline Send Email Sep 4, 2009
9:31 am
All, Due to an increasing number of requests I'm putting out a call for people to submit papers to be put into a Lean & Kanban booklet that will be available...
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