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CA's - Alphabets of Trust!! Post Satyam!!!   Message List  
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Re: [lucknow-ca] CA's - Alphabets of Trust!! Post Satyam!!!

 
    I DO AGREE.
      The central Council M embers must resign from the council of the ICAI, Other wise they should be Sacked by the Government by exercising their power.
      CA ,CMA. ANL CHOWDHRY.

On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 Agarwal & Saxena wrote :
>
>Dear Friends
>
>Although the mail reproduced below says it all- the last few days I feel have been a period of great turmoil for me as a member of this august profession. My dilemma lies in my inability to answer:
>
>- My parents
>- My Children
>- My Clients
>- My relatives
>- My friends
>- My neighbours
>and all those who i am introduced to as a "CA" or known as a professional - one simple question - How could this have happened under the eyes of one of the "best" auditors of our country with the best international practices????? Even my daughter who is pursuing CA as a profession cannot believe this could ever have happened using normal audit techniques she is aware of !!
>
>My son the other day enquired whether anybody important had resigned as a result of the "fall out"just like you have demands for resignations/actual resignations of the Minister concerned in any national calamity etc. I was dumbfounded and chose to remain silent and meekly replied "not as yet".
>
>Friends I cannot understand as to why there have been no resignations from the concerned Central Council members- How can you expect the enquiries to be "just" with "tainted" council members in important executive committees of the ICAI? What is taking them so long? Why do they need to be coaxed to "act"? ("inaction" I presume is the key word in PWC)
>
>A statement by PWC the other day in defence came out something like this ".... the audit was carried out as per applicable auditing and accounting standards issued by the ICAI... supported by evidences and documents......." . I can only conclude one way: either the ICAI needs to redraft the referred standards or PWC needs to "revisit" these standards!!
>
>I am not prejudiced against any member as such- but YES!! I WANT TO SAVE THE PRIDE OF MY PROFESSION!!
>
>I want the ICAI to carry out a massive face saving exercise- a resurrection exercise!!! We need to tell the world that this was an exception and does not apply to the entire CA fraternity.
>
>CA- Alphabets of trust???  Yes!! Yes!! But the world needs to know!!
>
>
>CA Anil K. Saxena
>B.Sc.,FCA, D.I.S.A.(ICA)
>Agarwal & Saxena
>Chartered Accountants
>510-11, City Centre, 63/2,
>The Mall, Kanpur - 208004
>Tel: 0512-2330164/166 *
>Telefax: 0512-2330177
>e-mail : agasax@...
>            anilksaxena@...
>The information in this email is confidential and intended solely for addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is
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>
>Controversial auditor stays in council
>January, 12th 2009
>Just when the Institute of Chartered Accountants of India (ICAI)
>probes allegations of fraud against auditors of Pricewaterhouse in
>the Satyam and Global Trust Bank (GTB) cases, an auditor from the
>firm who was part of both the audits continues to sit on the all-
>important council of the accounting regulator, raising many eyebrows.
>
>According to sources, the concerned senior auditor of
>Pricewaterhouse is already a suspect for being part of the audit
>team that worked on GTB. ICAI's disciplinary committee is
>investigating the matter after hauling up Pricewaterhouse' s audit
>team for alleged negligence in auditing of books of accounts of the
>bank and failing to detect its huge levels of NPAs.
>
>The probe into the GTB issue has been on for the last three years,
>though the ICAI is yet to arrive at a final decision on the matter.
>When asked why has it still not completed its investigation into the
>GTB case, ICAI president Ved Jain blamed the slow pace of progress
>to the provisions contained in the CA Act before a November 2006
>amendment. "The 2006 amendment allows us to expeditiously complete
>disciplinary action. However, the GTB case was taken up before this
>amendment and therefore it has been stuck in slow progress," he said.
>
>Just when the ICAI probes the GTB issue, the senior auditor of
>Pricewaterhouse continues to remain on its council, that carries the
>task of managing ICAI's affairs. The same auditor is now believed to
>have been caught on the wrong foot again, having been part of
>Pricewaterhouse' s audit team that worked on Satyam books in the
>previous years.
>
>The auditor's presence on the ICAI council has irked some of the
>senior chartered accountants who, requesting anonymity, also
>criticise the CA body for its slow pace of action. "How can a person
>who was part of two suspect audits still continue on the ICAI's
>council, especially when inquiry is on in the matter. Moreover, had
>the ICAI taken quick action on the GTB matter, it is possible that
>the concerned auditor would not be part of the Satyam audit team
>that is under doubt now for alleged misconduct," they said.
>
>According to sources, the concerned Pricewaterhouse auditor also
>chairs one of the non-standing committee of the ICAI.
>
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Dear Friends Although the mail reproduced below says it all- the last few days I feel have been a period of great turmoil for me as a member of this august...
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  I DO AGREE. The central Council M embers must resign from the council of the ICAI, Other wise they should be Sacked by the Government by exercising their...
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What do you want to convey that Govt should take over our profession and we all should become babus of Government department CA Ashok Seth C/o Seth &...
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Dear All, Has any one of us was audience to a talk show on Zee Busi on 12-01-09 in our respected CA.Ved jain was also there, one of the member of the six...
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Hello swadhin   shouldn't we come forward with solutions/ suggestion/ resolution which can help to restore professional independence of CA (both in industry...
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Dear CA.Sunil ji We should not only come up with suggestion but we have to make strong impact in the system and make representation to the govt in order to...
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Correct interpretation of debate on wrong topic has been done by our Leader in the profession Mr. CA Ashok Seth Ji. I personally do not find any justification...
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I agree with you Dear Mukesh. Actually I was responding that all central council should resign. We are taking the matter too far and becoming pessimistic about...
Ashok Seth
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Jan 15, 2009
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are we trying to put that the office bearers of the institute are above the normal law and responsibilities.let all such details about them be made to publish...
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No definitely not they are not above normal law. rather they have more responsibilities and should be torch bearer of ethics. Resignation by all council...
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Dear Members, Satyam issue is a very disheartening issue prima facie. The question majorly lies in the verification of balance sheet and verifications of...
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certain disclosure norms can be made mandatory at the time of elections atleast ca vinay kumar ________________________________ From: Ashok Seth...
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Yes that is surely good suggestion CA Ashok Seth C/o Seth & Associates Chartered Accountants 90- Pirpur Square Lucknow 226001 U.P. India Ph 0522-2288287,...
Ashok Seth
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Dear Friends,   Can any one give me the name address and phone no. of CA or Advocate practising in Company Law Board Delhi.   Navneet Singh Ajmani Dear...
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Jan 16, 2009
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Mr R D Makhija, Advocate & Senior Council , handles our cases in New Delhi His address is as following :- UG8, Sutlej Towers II,District Centre , JAnakpuri...
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what disclosures and who would vett the dislosures, by that time the election process would end With best regards G.SABHARWAL &...
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Respected Ashokbhai and other members, In next election the trends of winning such members in the election will be continue due to following reasons. (1) The...
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I have seen the last few minutes of the talk on DD News as well as on Zee business in which CA. Ved Jain was appearing. The gist of the talk was on both the...
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Ya...I do agree with U,,, Had been it a small firm The ICAI would have take banned the firm at the very instance, People sitting at the helm are having wested...
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Members are regularly quoting that they feel bad that they are one of the members of ICAI, rather they say they are feeling ashamed. DID THE SAME FEELINGS...
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Dear Members, My faith in profession and my Institute is still at the highest and I can still proudly say that : I Adore My Profession I Salute My Institute I...
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Jan 16, 2009
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Please make SATYAM as case study for coming RRC. Regards. -- CA. Mukesh Kumar Agarwal FCA, DISA (ICAI) Singh Agarwal & Associates Lucknow - 226 001 (India) ...
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  DEAR MEMBRS, OUR CONCIL MEMBTRS THINK ONLY OWN PROFESSIONAL GAIN, THEY HAVE NO DISCUSSION REGARDING PROBLEMS OF GENERAL MEMBRS, AT THE TIME OF ELCTION NO...
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Sh Jitender ji, The president of ICAI has done nothing for me or my city in particular but to the whole community of CA’s as a whole. Also since you wanted...
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Jan 17, 2009
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Dear All, IS there any limit on remuneration in case of profit making pvt. ltd. co, And can the co. pay commission on sales to its director? Thanks Vivek ... ...
CA. Vivek Agarwal
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Dear All, Kindly clarify that has there been any change with regard to allowability of investment made in PPF by an HUF for the FY 2008-09? Is the same not...
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Now HUF can not make investment in PPF. No change in Income-tax Act but in the PPF Rules. CA_logo_icai Pankaj Agrwal 225, Central Zone, Tej Kumar Plaza,...
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Thanks ... If any one has copy of that rules plz post on the group. Vivvek ... From: Pankaj ICAI To: lucknow-ca@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009...
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