I am more a CPO futures speculator than FKLI....
I make considerable lossess in FKLI this month. I just wondering most
of us here are position trading or intra day trading for FKLI???

It seems to me it is difficult to catch the  movement of the fund
managers. second liners may move up but index link stock are not
moving at times.....

I use chart to trade. but : ( so far for FKLI....

Any one here trade FCPO???? what do u think of the recent sharp
drop???

hey,

anyone see our cff photo? really ka so gorgeous? speculating futures?

Seriously I think we need some honest representation. Anyway if for
real then good for Her.

--- In mdex@yahoogroups.com, "kntfreedom" <kntfreedom@y...> wrote:
> Thank u all for the advise...
> I have one question though... from the chart provided, there are so
> many types of chart... (MACD, CCI Boiler Bands and etc), which ones
> are the most suitable to look at each time we plane to trade?
> I am new and any advise is very much appreciated...
>
> KNT

Why don't you try Moving Average Crossover may be 3 & 7 day range.
Once you set up, you may start to see the pattern. But don't forget
the intra day movement may affect your decision.

Thank u all for the advise...
I have one question though... from the chart provided, there are so
many types of chart... (MACD, CCI Boiler Bands and etc), which ones
are the most suitable to look at each time we plane to trade?
I am new and any advise is very much appreciated...

KNT

looks like the fund manager is supporting the Futures price with
their BUY contract.Once the 712.0 resistance level has been
broken.It now offers a very strong support level with the KLCI also
rebounding from 705.0.MArket looks likely to close above 710.0 with
support from local institutions.This means Futures price will be
supported as well.Its tracking the market 'coz of the JULY futures
expiring next week.So if you want to trade with a LONG medium term
outlook,August contract offer you less risk.

Yes...because they offer your real time price.If you want to trade
Futures you got to get the real time price.It's worth to open an
account and trade with them.So far only OSK offer real time for
Futures price at the moment without you having to refresh to get the
price movement.



--- In mdex@yahoogroups.com, "kntfreedom" <kntfreedom@y...> wrote:
> --- In mdex@yahoogroups.com, "fwdmailhere" <fwdmailhere@y...>
wrote:
> > if you put all emotion aside and look at the chart,it's clear
the
> > Futures has make a u-turn for the short-term.Only short if 712.0
> > level is broken.IF you are unsure what to do...STAY ASIDE!It's
> > better to trade another time then to have sleepless nite after
you
> > execute a trade.
> >
> > Off the monitor and go for a walk.Come back and trade again next
> > time.MArket will always be there.So even if you have made a
> loss,you
> > can always get it back as long as your capital is still intact.
>
> You are right... take a breather. I need to learn how to do that.
Are
> you using OSK chart for your trading decisions?
>
> KNT

--- In mdex@yahoogroups.com, "kntfreedom" <kntfreedom@y...> wrote:
>
>
> > If you are looking for charts I suggest you look at OSK188 but
you
> > have to sign up first.They use Metastock chart for futures. But
the
> > analysis I find them to be lousy. Most of the time The analysis
are
> > posted very very late - about 11-12 pm. Sometimes none for a few
> > days. I'd like to be their analyst bcos I can wait for the market
> > then write the analysis! Wonder how much they get paid. Most the
> time
> > you'd miss the price they recommend. Good job lah at OSK. I have
> > commented but no one is looking.
> >
> > So do not wait for them. Look at the charts and decide on your
own.
> >
> > Azemi
>
>
> I believe so.. it is too late at times. BTW, where can I get the
> charts.. it is available on the OSK website?
>
> KNT



Osk188.com under the Futures tab.

--- In mdex@yahoogroups.com, "fwdmailhere" <fwdmailhere@y...> wrote:
> if you put all emotion aside and look at the chart,it's clear the
> Futures has make a u-turn for the short-term.Only short if 712.0
> level is broken.IF you are unsure what to do...STAY ASIDE!It's
> better to trade another time then to have sleepless nite after you
> execute a trade.
>
> Off the monitor and go for a walk.Come back and trade again next
> time.MArket will always be there.So even if you have made a
loss,you
> can always get it back as long as your capital is still intact.

You are right... take a breather. I need to learn how to do that. Are
you using OSK chart for your trading decisions?

KNT

if you put all emotion aside and look at the chart,it's clear the
Futures has make a u-turn for the short-term.Only short if 712.0
level is broken.IF you are unsure what to do...STAY ASIDE!It's
better to trade another time then to have sleepless nite after you
execute a trade.

Off the monitor and go for a walk.Come back and trade again next
time.MArket will always be there.So even if you have made a loss,you
can always get it back as long as your capital is still intact.

> If you are looking for charts I suggest you look at OSK188 but you
> have to sign up first.They use Metastock chart for futures. But the
> analysis I find them to be lousy. Most of the time The analysis are
> posted very very late - about 11-12 pm. Sometimes none for a few
> days. I'd like to be their analyst bcos I can wait for the market
> then write the analysis! Wonder how much they get paid. Most the
time
> you'd miss the price they recommend. Good job lah at OSK. I have
> commented but no one is looking.
>
> So do not wait for them. Look at the charts and decide on your own.
>
> Azemi


I believe so.. it is too late at times. BTW, where can I get the
charts.. it is available on the OSK website?

KNT

713 and still standing.. short???
now one one knows if it is going to go up further or drop back...

--- In mdex@yahoogroups.com, "fwdmailhere" <fwdmailhere@y...> wrote:
> Can it last... CI is still down so much...

earlier on there was another 25 JUly BUY contract at 707.9 and true
enough the Futures rebound.Now another BIG BUY July contract and
price seems well supported at this level.

but it's expensive.He is very good at it and usually give good call
on whether to go short or long.You can check out it's webpage.

http://www.picapital.com.my/index.htm

--- In mdex@yahoogroups.com, "kntfreedom" <kntfreedom@y...> wrote:
> Anyone can share which web site can provide good analysis for the
> futures. Where can we get the charts mentioned?
> I mostly reply on the KLCI market news to judge on the futures.
Based
> on my understanding, the futures should follow the KLCI.
> What do u think?


If you are looking for charts I suggest you look at OSK188 but you
have to sign up first.They use Metastock chart for futures. But the
analysis I find them to be lousy. Most of the time The analysis are
posted very very late - about 11-12 pm. Sometimes none for a few
days. I'd like to be their analyst bcos I can wait for the market
then write the analysis! Wonder how much they get paid. Most the time
you'd miss the price they recommend. Good job lah at OSK. I have
commented but no one is looking.

So do not wait for them. Look at the charts and decide on your own.

Azemi

Anyone can share which web site can provide good analysis for the
futures. Where can we get the charts mentioned?
I mostly reply on the KLCI market news to judge on the futures. Based
on my understanding, the futures should follow the KLCI.
What do u think?

My August Contract:
Darn, I just close my position at selling 714, but not it's at
716.5 .... total lost of 12 points ( Long at 726)

Lesson learnt (EXPENSIVE):

- Cut loss firm!
- Take profit firm!
- Trade like robot, without emotion

Look at the KLCI now, do you think it could reach 710 by this
evening ??

Candle Stick Analysis:

21st JUL shows that it is an "Engulfing Bear", I was too ignorant to
ignore this signal , now got burnt :(





Repins

--- In mdex@yahoogroups.com, "kntfreedom" <kntfreedom@y...> wrote:
>
> >
> > kntfreedom,
> > I suffered this week too - did not take the cue from the chart!
> > Kept holding long until cannot tahan. You are right July bounced
> > before reaching 705 . This normally happen if you want to hit big
> > bcos you get hit big. Lesson,lesson...
> > Azemi
>
> I long at 721 days ago.. just yesterday my agent advise me to cut
> lost.. so cut lost at 711.3.
> Did not short back.. should have though.
> Now it is back up to 711 level.. and futures has a premium.. very
> confused... short might be risky.


I made up my mind to now stick to what the charts tell me and always
have a stop. What to do ,learned very late but still breathing . So
there is still hope.Most of the time we should never disregard the
intra day movement. One thing I hv learned is: if the chart tell you
to short , wait for it to go up first instead of jumping in at
opening and vice versa. This normally the trap for small timers like
me!

Now July is at 710 may be good time to short again.

>
> kntfreedom,
> I suffered this week too - did not take the cue from the chart!
> Kept holding long until cannot tahan. You are right July bounced
> before reaching 705 . This normally happen if you want to hit big
> bcos you get hit big. Lesson,lesson...
> Azemi

I long at 721 days ago.. just yesterday my agent advise me to cut
lost.. so cut lost at 711.3.
Did not short back.. should have though.
Now it is back up to 711 level.. and futures has a premium.. very
confused... short might be risky.

--- In mdex@yahoogroups.com, "kntfreedom" <kntfreedom@y...> wrote:
> --- In mdex@yahoogroups.com, "azemimn" <azemimn@y...> wrote:
> > If July hits 705 it may slide further. Looks like it will break
the
> > uptrend. Anyway I will stick at 705 to get out. Then look at the
> next
> > opportunity.
> >
> > Caroline,
> > August looks like it will follow suit.
> >
> > Azemi
>
> I think it is holding very strong at 705. I miss both boats.. to
> short at 12.5 and long back at 705.
> At this moment, I am just monitoring... got burnt earlier..

kntfreedom,
I suffered this week too - did not take the cue from the chart!
Kept holding long until cannot tahan. You are right July bounced
before reaching 705 . This normally happen if you want to hit big
bcos you get hit big. Lesson,lesson...
Azemi

Pls keep us updated... this is bad news...

According to the report from djones they are conducting a test on a
girl who has just return from China and have all the SARS
symptoms.The test result will be out in the afternoon.

If this is true,you know what will happen to the market which is
already vulnerable.SO could be a good opportunity to go SHORT.

--- In mdex@yahoogroups.com, "azemimn" <azemimn@y...> wrote:
> If July hits 705 it may slide further. Looks like it will break the
> uptrend. Anyway I will stick at 705 to get out. Then look at the
next
> opportunity.
>
> Caroline,
> August looks like it will follow suit.
>
> Azemi

I think it is holding very strong at 705. I miss both boats.. to
short at 12.5 and long back at 705.
At this moment, I am just monitoring... got burnt earlier..

If July hits 705 it may slide further. Looks like it will break the
uptrend. Anyway I will stick at 705 to get out. Then look at the next
opportunity.

Caroline,
August looks like it will follow suit.

Azemi

Anybody hold positing in August contract, what do you think ?


azemimn wrote:
> --- In mdex@yahoogroups.com, Caroline L <carolinel@1...> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Please let me start first,
>>I'm holding an August Long Contract at 726.0.
>>Market today is 713.0 , so paper lost is VERY severe, anyone still
>>holding Long position in July or August ?
>>
>>My gut feeling tells me that overall market still bullish, but
>
> market
>
>>sentiment is still very volatile. Just look at our KLCI today ,
>
> July
>
>>contract also traded under discount!
>>
>>What do you think ?
>>
>>Let's share.
>>
>>Carol.
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I will try to short today July at 712. To me the candle stick still
> showing further decline. But I will buy back at 705. So far I hv been
> unlucky with futures.
>
> Hope to be correct.
>
> Azemi
>
>
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--- In mdex@yahoogroups.com, Caroline L <carolinel@1...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Please let me start first,
> I'm holding an August Long Contract at 726.0.
> Market today is 713.0 , so paper lost is VERY severe, anyone still
> holding Long position in July or August ?
>
> My gut feeling tells me that overall market still bullish, but
market
> sentiment is still very volatile. Just look at our KLCI today ,
July
> contract also traded under discount!
>
> What do you think ?
>
> Let's share.
>
> Carol.


Hi,

I will try to short today July at 712. To me the candle stick still
showing further decline. But I will buy back at 705. So far I hv been
unlucky with futures.

Hope to be correct.

Azemi

Hi,

Please let me start first,
I'm holding an August Long Contract at 726.0.
Market today is 713.0 , so paper lost is VERY severe, anyone still
holding Long position in July or August ?

My gut feeling tells me that overall market still bullish, but market
sentiment is still very volatile. Just look at our KLCI today , July
contract also traded under discount!

What do you think ?

Let's share.

Carol.

Hi all,

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Just to share a tip, for those who have computer access during day time,
you can get the live KLCI Future price at www.188alert.com

Happy Trading!


Best regards

Caroline

Hello there,

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