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Re: Passenger Cars

Just found some more info on the origins of baggage cars 404 and
450. Both were originally owned by Minnesota, Dakota & Pacific.
(That's the M&StL line in South Dakota.) These cars began life as
baggage and mail cars. There was also a number 16 built at the same
time by ACF. 17 was renumbered 672 Feb. 10, 1910; 18 re#d 673 Jan.
7, 1910; and 16 re#d 671 Dec. 10, 1909. It is interesting that the
margin note indicates "acquired by M&StL 1-1-12 from the MD&P" yet
they were renumbered by M&StL before that time. Makes me wonder if
they ever actually carried Minnesota, Dakota & Pacific lettering.
Probably not. Anyway, all this trivia is worth a tiny fraction of a
good photo. Can anyone help?

--- In mstl@egroups.com, willibecher@j... wrote:
> Baggage cars 404 and 450 were both built by ACF 10-1906.
> About 404 - originally numbered 18, rebuilt in 1920 to add a steel
> underframe, got electric lights in 1923, then baggage/mail 673,
> converted to baggage car T-404 in July 1936.
> About 450 - originally numbered 17, Vapor steam heat in 1917,
rebuilt
> in 1920 to add a steel underframe, got electric lights in 1921,
then
> baggage/mail 672, converted to baggage car T-450 in July 1936.
>
> While on the topic of passenger cars, Railway Prototype Cyclopedia,
> Vol. 5, P.O. Box 451, Chesterfield, MO 63006-0451, has a good
> article on WWII Troop Sleepers and Kitchen Cars that includes a
good
> photo of M&StL former troop sleeper 400 in dark paint (black &
white
> photo).




Wed Dec 13, 2000 8:51 pm

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Baggage cars 404 and 450 were both built by ACF 10-1906. About 404 - originally numbered 18, rebuilt in 1920 to add a steel underframe, got electric lights in...
willibecher@... Send Email Dec 11, 2000
2:41 pm

Just found some more info on the origins of baggage cars 404 and 450. Both were originally owned by Minnesota, Dakota & Pacific. (That's the M&StL line in...
willibecher@... Send Email Dec 13, 2000
8:51 pm

Found this letter in an AFE from 1924 for putting partitions in the cars mentioned. Unfortunately no plans, drawings, photos or even a hint as to colors....
Gene Green
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Mar 15, 2001
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