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#5394 From: "Nick Ali" <nick.ali@...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:49 pm
Subject: HLine plot on multi time frame charts
nickali2
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The attached screenshots show a 3 plot Hline indicator derived from a monthly bar on a daily chart. These are the thick purple lines. OK.png shows the indicator plotting fine. If you scroll a little to the left shown in noplot.png the Hlines disappear. This seems to be because the current monthly bar is now off the page. The Hline should still plot but to the edge of the chart. Needless to say I don't have the screen real estate to plot quarterly and yearly levels as I would like.
 
As I mentioned before it would be useful to have an option to have the higher time period bar plot at the location of the first lower time period bar. I think this is how the first series will plot isn't it ? This is more of a request than the hline issue which I think is a problem.
 
Thanks,
Nick.
 

#5395 From: "Louis Lin" <lhclin@...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 6:16 pm
Subject: Re: HLine plot on multi time frame charts
lhclin
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For real-time data (not historical, which is always marked at end bar position), the option is:
 
User Preference>Real-time Data>Stamp the last valid bar within the bar location.
 
This is actually how 2.9X behaves.  We change the behavior because mix time frame
indicators and formula becomes ambigious using this plot style. 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:49 AM
Subject: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

The attached screenshots show a 3 plot Hline indicator derived from a monthly bar on a daily chart. These are the thick purple lines. OK.png shows the indicator plotting fine. If you scroll a little to the left shown in noplot.png the Hlines disappear. This seems to be because the current monthly bar is now off the page. The Hline should still plot but to the edge of the chart. Needless to say I don't have the screen real estate to plot quarterly and yearly levels as I would like.
 
As I mentioned before it would be useful to have an option to have the higher time period bar plot at the location of the first lower time period bar. I think this is how the first series will plot isn't it ? This is more of a request than the hline issue which I think is a problem.
 
Thanks,
Nick.
 


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#5396 From: "Nick Ali" <nick.ali@...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 6:36 pm
Subject: RE: HLine plot on multi time frame charts
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Thanks Louis,
 
The multi time frame stuff is really starting too look very good now.
 
Cheers,
Nick.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 01 April 2003 19:16
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

For real-time data (not historical, which is always marked at end bar position), the option is:
 
User Preference>Real-time Data>Stamp the last valid bar within the bar location.
 
This is actually how 2.9X behaves.  We change the behavior because mix time frame
indicators and formula becomes ambigious using this plot style. 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:49 AM
Subject: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

The attached screenshots show a 3 plot Hline indicator derived from a monthly bar on a daily chart. These are the thick purple lines. OK.png shows the indicator plotting fine. If you scroll a little to the left shown in noplot.png the Hlines disappear. This seems to be because the current monthly bar is now off the page. The Hline should still plot but to the edge of the chart. Needless to say I don't have the screen real estate to plot quarterly and yearly levels as I would like.
 
As I mentioned before it would be useful to have an option to have the higher time period bar plot at the location of the first lower time period bar. I think this is how the first series will plot isn't it ? This is more of a request than the hline issue which I think is a problem.
 
Thanks,
Nick.
 


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#5397 From: "Nick Ali" <nick.ali@...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 6:43 pm
Subject: RE: HLine plot on multi time frame charts
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I have just discovered one more slight wrinkle. With the setting you describe below the HLines display as I would expect unless if you displace them right they still disappear unless you scroll the chart to the left. It looks as if the the displace setting does not take into account the stamp last valid bar setting. I can provide a couple of charts if this isn't clear.
 
Cheers,
nick.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 01 April 2003 19:16
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

For real-time data (not historical, which is always marked at end bar position), the option is:
 
User Preference>Real-time Data>Stamp the last valid bar within the bar location.
 
This is actually how 2.9X behaves.  We change the behavior because mix time frame
indicators and formula becomes ambigious using this plot style. 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:49 AM
Subject: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

The attached screenshots show a 3 plot Hline indicator derived from a monthly bar on a daily chart. These are the thick purple lines. OK.png shows the indicator plotting fine. If you scroll a little to the left shown in noplot.png the Hlines disappear. This seems to be because the current monthly bar is now off the page. The Hline should still plot but to the edge of the chart. Needless to say I don't have the screen real estate to plot quarterly and yearly levels as I would like.
 
As I mentioned before it would be useful to have an option to have the higher time period bar plot at the location of the first lower time period bar. I think this is how the first series will plot isn't it ? This is more of a request than the hline issue which I think is a problem.
 
Thanks,
Nick.
 


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#5398 From: "Louis Lin" <lhclin@...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 6:54 pm
Subject: Re: HLine plot on multi time frame charts
lhclin
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Disappearing is design behavior.  If the bar that the indicator depends on is
not visible, the indicator will be hidden.
 
The motivation is people training on historical data wouldn't peek into
the future through an indicator.
 
Please provide charts I misunderstand you.
 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

I have just discovered one more slight wrinkle. With the setting you describe below the HLines display as I would expect unless if you displace them right they still disappear unless you scroll the chart to the left. It looks as if the the displace setting does not take into account the stamp last valid bar setting. I can provide a couple of charts if this isn't clear.
 
Cheers,
nick.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 01 April 2003 19:16
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

For real-time data (not historical, which is always marked at end bar position), the option is:
 
User Preference>Real-time Data>Stamp the last valid bar within the bar location.
 
This is actually how 2.9X behaves.  We change the behavior because mix time frame
indicators and formula becomes ambigious using this plot style. 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:49 AM
Subject: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

The attached screenshots show a 3 plot Hline indicator derived from a monthly bar on a daily chart. These are the thick purple lines. OK.png shows the indicator plotting fine. If you scroll a little to the left shown in noplot.png the Hlines disappear. This seems to be because the current monthly bar is now off the page. The Hline should still plot but to the edge of the chart. Needless to say I don't have the screen real estate to plot quarterly and yearly levels as I would like.
 
As I mentioned before it would be useful to have an option to have the higher time period bar plot at the location of the first lower time period bar. I think this is how the first series will plot isn't it ? This is more of a request than the hline issue which I think is a problem.
 
Thanks,
Nick.
 


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#5399 From: "Nick Ali" <nick.ali@...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 7:56 pm
Subject: RE: HLine plot on multi time frame charts
nickali2
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charts show daily bars with purple hlines based on a hidden monthly bar.
 
chart 1 is displacement 0 it shows the lines correctly for this month painting with the daily bar. Notice the short lines for today
 
chart 2 is displacement 1 it should show last months lines painting with today's daily bar, it does not.
 
chart 3 is displacement 1 also but scrolled over to the left. Last months lines now paint correctly with today's bar.
 
it appears if you displace to the right the indicators based on the higher time period bar ignore the setting   Stamp the last valid bar within the bar location 
 
The behaviour when not displaced is fine. Put another way if you displace the indicator it behaves as if "always stamp the end time of the bar duration" is selected even if it is not. I hope I have explained well enough it is tricky to get across.
 
Cheers,
Nick.
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 01 April 2003 19:55
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

Disappearing is design behavior.  If the bar that the indicator depends on is
not visible, the indicator will be hidden.
 
The motivation is people training on historical data wouldn't peek into
the future through an indicator.
 
Please provide charts I misunderstand you.
 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

I have just discovered one more slight wrinkle. With the setting you describe below the HLines display as I would expect unless if you displace them right they still disappear unless you scroll the chart to the left. It looks as if the the displace setting does not take into account the stamp last valid bar setting. I can provide a couple of charts if this isn't clear.
 
Cheers,
nick.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 01 April 2003 19:16
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

For real-time data (not historical, which is always marked at end bar position), the option is:
 
User Preference>Real-time Data>Stamp the last valid bar within the bar location.
 
This is actually how 2.9X behaves.  We change the behavior because mix time frame
indicators and formula becomes ambigious using this plot style. 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:49 AM
Subject: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

The attached screenshots show a 3 plot Hline indicator derived from a monthly bar on a daily chart. These are the thick purple lines. OK.png shows the indicator plotting fine. If you scroll a little to the left shown in noplot.png the Hlines disappear. This seems to be because the current monthly bar is now off the page. The Hline should still plot but to the edge of the chart. Needless to say I don't have the screen real estate to plot quarterly and yearly levels as I would like.
 
As I mentioned before it would be useful to have an option to have the higher time period bar plot at the location of the first lower time period bar. I think this is how the first series will plot isn't it ? This is more of a request than the hline issue which I think is a problem.
 
Thanks,
Nick.
 


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#5400 From: "Louis Lin" <lhclin@...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 9:57 pm
Subject: Re: HLine plot on multi time frame charts
lhclin
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I hope I get it right.
 
The principle is if the series's time stamp is not visible, then the part of the series
is not visible.
 
Displacement does not change this principle.  Otherwise it is possible to use displacement
to look ahead.
 
We will see if some feature can be put in for 3.1.  For example, allow drawing of indicator
without this restriction.
 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

charts show daily bars with purple hlines based on a hidden monthly bar.
 
chart 1 is displacement 0 it shows the lines correctly for this month painting with the daily bar. Notice the short lines for today
 
chart 2 is displacement 1 it should show last months lines painting with today's daily bar, it does not.
 
chart 3 is displacement 1 also but scrolled over to the left. Last months lines now paint correctly with today's bar.
 
it appears if you displace to the right the indicators based on the higher time period bar ignore the setting   Stamp the last valid bar within the bar location 
 
The behaviour when not displaced is fine. Put another way if you displace the indicator it behaves as if "always stamp the end time of the bar duration" is selected even if it is not. I hope I have explained well enough it is tricky to get across.
 
Cheers,
Nick.
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 01 April 2003 19:55
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

Disappearing is design behavior.  If the bar that the indicator depends on is
not visible, the indicator will be hidden.
 
The motivation is people training on historical data wouldn't peek into
the future through an indicator.
 
Please provide charts I misunderstand you.
 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

I have just discovered one more slight wrinkle. With the setting you describe below the HLines display as I would expect unless if you displace them right they still disappear unless you scroll the chart to the left. It looks as if the the displace setting does not take into account the stamp last valid bar setting. I can provide a couple of charts if this isn't clear.
 
Cheers,
nick.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 01 April 2003 19:16
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

For real-time data (not historical, which is always marked at end bar position), the option is:
 
User Preference>Real-time Data>Stamp the last valid bar within the bar location.
 
This is actually how 2.9X behaves.  We change the behavior because mix time frame
indicators and formula becomes ambigious using this plot style. 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:49 AM
Subject: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

The attached screenshots show a 3 plot Hline indicator derived from a monthly bar on a daily chart. These are the thick purple lines. OK.png shows the indicator plotting fine. If you scroll a little to the left shown in noplot.png the Hlines disappear. This seems to be because the current monthly bar is now off the page. The Hline should still plot but to the edge of the chart. Needless to say I don't have the screen real estate to plot quarterly and yearly levels as I would like.
 
As I mentioned before it would be useful to have an option to have the higher time period bar plot at the location of the first lower time period bar. I think this is how the first series will plot isn't it ? This is more of a request than the hline issue which I think is a problem.
 
Thanks,
Nick.
 


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#5401 From: "kapex01" <kapex@...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 9:40 pm
Subject: Export Multiple Indicators
kapex01
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NT RC3

Do you have any plans to allow the export (Excel, .CSV)
of multiple plots (data and/or indicators) ?

#5402 From: "Louis Lin" <lhclin@...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 11:25 pm
Subject: Re: Export Multiple Indicators
lhclin
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Multiple plots of a single indicator is currently exported.

Export of a group of data/indicators will be put to wish list.
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com


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Subject: [neoticker] Export Multiple Indicators


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#5403 From: "Nick Ali" <nick.ali@...>
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 9:54 am
Subject: RE: HLine plot on multi time frame charts
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Hi Louis,
 
Ok I am understanding the principle better at least but I think it is flawed.  Not displaying data if a bar is not actually visible is really not the answer!  This prevents lots and lots of valid data being displayed particularly if it is a bar in the past.  Maybe it was really done to improve display efficiency or something? Whatever the reason valid data is often not displayed.
 
For example if I display daily bars from 5 years ago and monthly indicator (based on a month 5 years ago) flashes on and off as the month bars scroll into and out of view, this is clearly not right. This best shows the problem but there are lots of other examples a couple more follow:-
 
Positive displacement moves an indicator to the right - this means past values of the indicator are displayed today,  not future values at all! I could understand if it was a negative displacement. (Why not allow users to look ahead if they know the risks anyway? That's what the NT pivot indicators do -  they display levels on today's chart based on yesterdays OHLC).  If I want levels plotted
 
I can display things if I have lots of white space on the right edge of my chart and not if I don't? 
 
Apart from this I think there is a bug in so far as the part of the code  that checks the new "stamp last bar" setting is not called if your plot is displaced. The bar IS VISIBLE as it is stamped at the beginning. Or possibly NT is ignoring the displacement when it is checking to see if it is visible. Better to just take out the check!
 
Anyway thanks for bearing with me this far :-)
 
Cheers,
Nick
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 01 April 2003 22:58
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

I hope I get it right.
 
The principle is if the series's time stamp is not visible, then the part of the series
is not visible.
 
Displacement does not change this principle.  Otherwise it is possible to use displacement
to look ahead.
 
We will see if some feature can be put in for 3.1.  For example, allow drawing of indicator
without this restriction.
 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

charts show daily bars with purple hlines based on a hidden monthly bar.
 
chart 1 is displacement 0 it shows the lines correctly for this month painting with the daily bar. Notice the short lines for today
 
chart 2 is displacement 1 it should show last months lines painting with today's daily bar, it does not.
 
chart 3 is displacement 1 also but scrolled over to the left. Last months lines now paint correctly with today's bar.
 
it appears if you displace to the right the indicators based on the higher time period bar ignore the setting   Stamp the last valid bar within the bar location 
 
The behaviour when not displaced is fine. Put another way if you displace the indicator it behaves as if "always stamp the end time of the bar duration" is selected even if it is not. I hope I have explained well enough it is tricky to get across.
 
Cheers,
Nick.
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 01 April 2003 19:55
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

Disappearing is design behavior.  If the bar that the indicator depends on is
not visible, the indicator will be hidden.
 
The motivation is people training on historical data wouldn't peek into
the future through an indicator.
 
Please provide charts I misunderstand you.
 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

I have just discovered one more slight wrinkle. With the setting you describe below the HLines display as I would expect unless if you displace them right they still disappear unless you scroll the chart to the left. It looks as if the the displace setting does not take into account the stamp last valid bar setting. I can provide a couple of charts if this isn't clear.
 
Cheers,
nick.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 01 April 2003 19:16
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

For real-time data (not historical, which is always marked at end bar position), the option is:
 
User Preference>Real-time Data>Stamp the last valid bar within the bar location.
 
This is actually how 2.9X behaves.  We change the behavior because mix time frame
indicators and formula becomes ambigious using this plot style. 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:49 AM
Subject: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

The attached screenshots show a 3 plot Hline indicator derived from a monthly bar on a daily chart. These are the thick purple lines. OK.png shows the indicator plotting fine. If you scroll a little to the left shown in noplot.png the Hlines disappear. This seems to be because the current monthly bar is now off the page. The Hline should still plot but to the edge of the chart. Needless to say I don't have the screen real estate to plot quarterly and yearly levels as I would like.
 
As I mentioned before it would be useful to have an option to have the higher time period bar plot at the location of the first lower time period bar. I think this is how the first series will plot isn't it ? This is more of a request than the hline issue which I think is a problem.
 
Thanks,
Nick.
 


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#5404 From: "Nick Ali" <nick.ali@...>
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 10:53 am
Subject: 24 hours / time range charts
nickali2
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I have a feeling that this may have been answered before apologies if so.
 
I'd like to have 24 hour charts but have them start at 9.30 and go round to 8.59:59 the next day. There appears to be a check in NT that prevents start time being less than end time. Is there anyway around this ? Could it be removed and just use "24 hour modulo arithmetic".
 
Alternatively would it be possible to have 'from' used as the start and end time when 24 hours is selected rather than midnight? In particular I would like tick bars to re-set at 4.15 eastern rather than midnight so I can duplicate a globex emini session.
 
Another request that I know others have mentioned. It would be nice to have vertical lines and or zones that could be placed at certain points in the day to help visually identify the particular part of the day you are in. (lunch time doldrums for example).
 
Many Thanks,
Nick

#5405 From: "Nick Ali" <nick.ali@...>
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 12:22 pm
Subject: Wish list item - plot styles
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There are lots of styles that could be useful.
 
 One in particular that I would use extensively is a combination Region and Hline. Region Hline if you like. This would be the same as region except rather than having the bound formed by sloping lines they would be formed by Hlines. It would also be useful to have a different fills as by there nature regions occupy a lot of chart space. What I am thinking is some sort of opaque fill maybe dots or hatching for example.
 
Other sorts of things that would be useful would dotted /dashed lines. And different symbols e.g.. circular dots, up - down - right and left side arrows. Or possibly and character or even string. I realise this would require interface additions but just food for thought.
 
Cheers
Nick.
 

#5406 From: "Nick Ali" <nick.ali@...>
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 12:48 pm
Subject: Multi time - even bar spacing
nickali2
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I create a brand new 1 day ES chart with even spacing. I then add a 1 weekly es series and get the error
 
"must be a true multiple to the time frame of the first data series (1 Daily)"
 
A week is a multiple of 5 days so I am guessing NT doesn't know there are 5 days in a week at this point? This isn't too much of a problem as a time based chart plots pretty much the same as bar driven chart at this point.
 
Cheers,
Nick
 

#5407 From: "Louis Lin" <lhclin@...>
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 3:32 pm
Subject: Re: HLine plot on multi time frame charts
lhclin
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Displacement is ignored as of now.
 
We will put an option to turn off this safeguard in 3.1.
 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 4:54 AM
Subject: RE: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

Hi Louis,
 
Ok I am understanding the principle better at least but I think it is flawed.  Not displaying data if a bar is not actually visible is really not the answer!  This prevents lots and lots of valid data being displayed particularly if it is a bar in the past.  Maybe it was really done to improve display efficiency or something? Whatever the reason valid data is often not displayed.
 
For example if I display daily bars from 5 years ago and monthly indicator (based on a month 5 years ago) flashes on and off as the month bars scroll into and out of view, this is clearly not right. This best shows the problem but there are lots of other examples a couple more follow:-
 
Positive displacement moves an indicator to the right - this means past values of the indicator are displayed today,  not future values at all! I could understand if it was a negative displacement. (Why not allow users to look ahead if they know the risks anyway? That's what the NT pivot indicators do -  they display levels on today's chart based on yesterdays OHLC).  If I want levels plotted
 
I can display things if I have lots of white space on the right edge of my chart and not if I don't? 
 
Apart from this I think there is a bug in so far as the part of the code  that checks the new "stamp last bar" setting is not called if your plot is displaced. The bar IS VISIBLE as it is stamped at the beginning. Or possibly NT is ignoring the displacement when it is checking to see if it is visible. Better to just take out the check!
 
Anyway thanks for bearing with me this far :-)
 
Cheers,
Nick
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 01 April 2003 22:58
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

I hope I get it right.
 
The principle is if the series's time stamp is not visible, then the part of the series
is not visible.
 
Displacement does not change this principle.  Otherwise it is possible to use displacement
to look ahead.
 
We will see if some feature can be put in for 3.1.  For example, allow drawing of indicator
without this restriction.
 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

charts show daily bars with purple hlines based on a hidden monthly bar.
 
chart 1 is displacement 0 it shows the lines correctly for this month painting with the daily bar. Notice the short lines for today
 
chart 2 is displacement 1 it should show last months lines painting with today's daily bar, it does not.
 
chart 3 is displacement 1 also but scrolled over to the left. Last months lines now paint correctly with today's bar.
 
it appears if you displace to the right the indicators based on the higher time period bar ignore the setting   Stamp the last valid bar within the bar location 
 
The behaviour when not displaced is fine. Put another way if you displace the indicator it behaves as if "always stamp the end time of the bar duration" is selected even if it is not. I hope I have explained well enough it is tricky to get across.
 
Cheers,
Nick.
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 01 April 2003 19:55
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

Disappearing is design behavior.  If the bar that the indicator depends on is
not visible, the indicator will be hidden.
 
The motivation is people training on historical data wouldn't peek into
the future through an indicator.
 
Please provide charts I misunderstand you.
 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

I have just discovered one more slight wrinkle. With the setting you describe below the HLines display as I would expect unless if you displace them right they still disappear unless you scroll the chart to the left. It looks as if the the displace setting does not take into account the stamp last valid bar setting. I can provide a couple of charts if this isn't clear.
 
Cheers,
nick.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 01 April 2003 19:16
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

For real-time data (not historical, which is always marked at end bar position), the option is:
 
User Preference>Real-time Data>Stamp the last valid bar within the bar location.
 
This is actually how 2.9X behaves.  We change the behavior because mix time frame
indicators and formula becomes ambigious using this plot style. 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:49 AM
Subject: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

The attached screenshots show a 3 plot Hline indicator derived from a monthly bar on a daily chart. These are the thick purple lines. OK.png shows the indicator plotting fine. If you scroll a little to the left shown in noplot.png the Hlines disappear. This seems to be because the current monthly bar is now off the page. The Hline should still plot but to the edge of the chart. Needless to say I don't have the screen real estate to plot quarterly and yearly levels as I would like.
 
As I mentioned before it would be useful to have an option to have the higher time period bar plot at the location of the first lower time period bar. I think this is how the first series will plot isn't it ? This is more of a request than the hline issue which I think is a problem.
 
Thanks,
Nick.
 


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#5408 From: "Louis Lin" <lhclin@...>
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 3:37 pm
Subject: Re: 24 hours / time range charts
lhclin
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No you can't do this.
 
-----------------
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TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:53 AM
Subject: [neoticker] 24 hours / time range charts

I have a feeling that this may have been answered before apologies if so.
 
I'd like to have 24 hour charts but have them start at 9.30 and go round to 8.59:59 the next day. There appears to be a check in NT that prevents start time being less than end time. Is there anyway around this ? Could it be removed and just use "24 hour modulo arithmetic".
 
Alternatively would it be possible to have 'from' used as the start and end time when 24 hours is selected rather than midnight? In particular I would like tick bars to re-set at 4.15 eastern rather than midnight so I can duplicate a globex emini session.
 
Another request that I know others have mentioned. It would be nice to have vertical lines and or zones that could be placed at certain points in the day to help visually identify the particular part of the day you are in. (lunch time doldrums for example).
 
Many Thanks,
Nick


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#5409 From: "Louis Lin" <lhclin@...>
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 3:43 pm
Subject: Re: Wish list item - plot styles
lhclin
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Does it look like the "box" style of data series?
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 7:22 AM
Subject: [neoticker] Wish list item - plot styles

There are lots of styles that could be useful.
 
 One in particular that I would use extensively is a combination Region and Hline. Region Hline if you like. This would be the same as region except rather than having the bound formed by sloping lines they would be formed by Hlines. It would also be useful to have a different fills as by there nature regions occupy a lot of chart space. What I am thinking is some sort of opaque fill maybe dots or hatching for example.
 
Other sorts of things that would be useful would dotted /dashed lines. And different symbols e.g.. circular dots, up - down - right and left side arrows. Or possibly and character or even string. I realise this would require interface additions but just food for thought.
 
Cheers
Nick.
 


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#5410 From: "Louis Lin" <lhclin@...>
Date: Wed Apr 2, 2003 3:51 pm
Subject: Re: Multi time - even bar spacing
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Even bar spacing is useful only for tick bars (5-ticks, 100-ticks, etc).
 
For time bars(5-min, 1-day, 1-week, etc), the bars are already even
bar spaced.  So even bar space is simple add unnecessary load
to the chart.
 
Also, 1-week in NeoTicker <> 5 days.  It depends on trading time
and holiday settings.  So lining up a fixed number of days to mix
daily and weekly time frame will not work.
 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 7:48 AM
Subject: [neoticker] Multi time - even bar spacing

I create a brand new 1 day ES chart with even spacing. I then add a 1 weekly es series and get the error
 
"must be a true multiple to the time frame of the first data series (1 Daily)"
 
A week is a multiple of 5 days so I am guessing NT doesn't know there are 5 days in a week at this point? This isn't too much of a problem as a time based chart plots pretty much the same as bar driven chart at this point.
 
Cheers,
Nick
 


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#5411 From: "Nick Ali" <nick.ali@...>
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 11:21 am
Subject: RE: HLine plot on multi time frame charts
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I can see how displacement might present problems with multiple time frames particularly on tick charts that 'reset' at midnight. I have attached a couple of charts to a later message that show this clearly, they may be of some use.
 
Turning of the safeguard would make me a happy camper :-)
 
Cheers,
Nick.
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 02 April 2003 16:33
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

Displacement is ignored as of now.
 
We will put an option to turn off this safeguard in 3.1.
 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 4:54 AM
Subject: RE: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

Hi Louis,
 
Ok I am understanding the principle better at least but I think it is flawed.  Not displaying data if a bar is not actually visible is really not the answer!  This prevents lots and lots of valid data being displayed particularly if it is a bar in the past.  Maybe it was really done to improve display efficiency or something? Whatever the reason valid data is often not displayed.
 
For example if I display daily bars from 5 years ago and monthly indicator (based on a month 5 years ago) flashes on and off as the month bars scroll into and out of view, this is clearly not right. This best shows the problem but there are lots of other examples a couple more follow:-
 
Positive displacement moves an indicator to the right - this means past values of the indicator are displayed today,  not future values at all! I could understand if it was a negative displacement. (Why not allow users to look ahead if they know the risks anyway? That's what the NT pivot indicators do -  they display levels on today's chart based on yesterdays OHLC).  If I want levels plotted
 
I can display things if I have lots of white space on the right edge of my chart and not if I don't? 
 
Apart from this I think there is a bug in so far as the part of the code  that checks the new "stamp last bar" setting is not called if your plot is displaced. The bar IS VISIBLE as it is stamped at the beginning. Or possibly NT is ignoring the displacement when it is checking to see if it is visible. Better to just take out the check!
 
Anyway thanks for bearing with me this far :-)
 
Cheers,
Nick
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 01 April 2003 22:58
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

I hope I get it right.
 
The principle is if the series's time stamp is not visible, then the part of the series
is not visible.
 
Displacement does not change this principle.  Otherwise it is possible to use displacement
to look ahead.
 
We will see if some feature can be put in for 3.1.  For example, allow drawing of indicator
without this restriction.
 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

charts show daily bars with purple hlines based on a hidden monthly bar.
 
chart 1 is displacement 0 it shows the lines correctly for this month painting with the daily bar. Notice the short lines for today
 
chart 2 is displacement 1 it should show last months lines painting with today's daily bar, it does not.
 
chart 3 is displacement 1 also but scrolled over to the left. Last months lines now paint correctly with today's bar.
 
it appears if you displace to the right the indicators based on the higher time period bar ignore the setting   Stamp the last valid bar within the bar location 
 
The behaviour when not displaced is fine. Put another way if you displace the indicator it behaves as if "always stamp the end time of the bar duration" is selected even if it is not. I hope I have explained well enough it is tricky to get across.
 
Cheers,
Nick.
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 01 April 2003 19:55
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

Disappearing is design behavior.  If the bar that the indicator depends on is
not visible, the indicator will be hidden.
 
The motivation is people training on historical data wouldn't peek into
the future through an indicator.
 
Please provide charts I misunderstand you.
 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

I have just discovered one more slight wrinkle. With the setting you describe below the HLines display as I would expect unless if you displace them right they still disappear unless you scroll the chart to the left. It looks as if the the displace setting does not take into account the stamp last valid bar setting. I can provide a couple of charts if this isn't clear.
 
Cheers,
nick.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 01 April 2003 19:16
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

For real-time data (not historical, which is always marked at end bar position), the option is:
 
User Preference>Real-time Data>Stamp the last valid bar within the bar location.
 
This is actually how 2.9X behaves.  We change the behavior because mix time frame
indicators and formula becomes ambigious using this plot style. 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:49 AM
Subject: [neoticker] HLine plot on multi time frame charts

The attached screenshots show a 3 plot Hline indicator derived from a monthly bar on a daily chart. These are the thick purple lines. OK.png shows the indicator plotting fine. If you scroll a little to the left shown in noplot.png the Hlines disappear. This seems to be because the current monthly bar is now off the page. The Hline should still plot but to the edge of the chart. Needless to say I don't have the screen real estate to plot quarterly and yearly levels as I would like.
 
As I mentioned before it would be useful to have an option to have the higher time period bar plot at the location of the first lower time period bar. I think this is how the first series will plot isn't it ? This is more of a request than the hline issue which I think is a problem.
 
Thanks,
Nick.
 


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#5412 From: "Nick Ali" <nick.ali@...>
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 11:22 am
Subject: RE: 24 hours / time range charts
nickali2
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OK thanks,
 
Might it be added as a wish list item. I believe I remember Jerome asking similar.
 
Cheers,
Nick.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 02 April 2003 16:37
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] 24 hours / time range charts

No you can't do this.
 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:53 AM
Subject: [neoticker] 24 hours / time range charts

I have a feeling that this may have been answered before apologies if so.
 
I'd like to have 24 hour charts but have them start at 9.30 and go round to 8.59:59 the next day. There appears to be a check in NT that prevents start time being less than end time. Is there anyway around this ? Could it be removed and just use "24 hour modulo arithmetic".
 
Alternatively would it be possible to have 'from' used as the start and end time when 24 hours is selected rather than midnight? In particular I would like tick bars to re-set at 4.15 eastern rather than midnight so I can duplicate a globex emini session.
 
Another request that I know others have mentioned. It would be nice to have vertical lines and or zones that could be placed at certain points in the day to help visually identify the particular part of the day you are in. (lunch time doldrums for example).
 
Many Thanks,
Nick


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#5413 From: "Nick Ali" <nick.ali@...>
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 11:24 am
Subject: RE: Wish list item - plot styles
nickali2
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Like the box style but with the areas confined by the box 'filled in' similar to the region plot.
 
Cheers,
Nick.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 02 April 2003 16:44
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] Wish list item - plot styles

Does it look like the "box" style of data series?
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 7:22 AM
Subject: [neoticker] Wish list item - plot styles

There are lots of styles that could be useful.
 
 One in particular that I would use extensively is a combination Region and Hline. Region Hline if you like. This would be the same as region except rather than having the bound formed by sloping lines they would be formed by Hlines. It would also be useful to have a different fills as by there nature regions occupy a lot of chart space. What I am thinking is some sort of opaque fill maybe dots or hatching for example.
 
Other sorts of things that would be useful would dotted /dashed lines. And different symbols e.g.. circular dots, up - down - right and left side arrows. Or possibly and character or even string. I realise this would require interface additions but just food for thought.
 
Cheers
Nick.
 


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#5414 From: "Nick Ali" <nick.ali@...>
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 11:57 am
Subject: Some more observations on displacement
nickali2
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Seems to be another odd thing using displacement. The two charts show a pair of blue plots. The first is undisclosed the second displaced by 1 it seems to be displace by 1 and a few bars.
 
BTW I think I have noticed that where the bar is stamped seems to make no difference to displacement behaviour or if a plot is or is not displayed. Sorry to have introduced that 'red herring' into the matter.
 
 
Cheers,
Nick
 
 

#5415 From: "Louis Lin" <lhclin@...>
Date: Thu Apr 3, 2003 3:57 pm
Subject: Displacement/Box Style/24 hours (Re: Wish list item - plot styles)
lhclin
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Will add to wish list.
 
Displacement - Ability to draw disregarding bar visibility in time.  I believe
this is a safe feature for 3.1.
 
"Box style" for indicator - I believe this also safe feature for 3.1.
 
24 hours chart with any starting time - I believe this is a high risk item.
Have to investigate.
 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:24 AM
Subject: RE: [neoticker] Wish list item - plot styles

Like the box style but with the areas confined by the box 'filled in' similar to the region plot.
 
Cheers,
Nick.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 02 April 2003 16:44
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] Wish list item - plot styles

Does it look like the "box" style of data series?
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 7:22 AM
Subject: [neoticker] Wish list item - plot styles

There are lots of styles that could be useful.
 
 One in particular that I would use extensively is a combination Region and Hline. Region Hline if you like. This would be the same as region except rather than having the bound formed by sloping lines they would be formed by Hlines. It would also be useful to have a different fills as by there nature regions occupy a lot of chart space. What I am thinking is some sort of opaque fill maybe dots or hatching for example.
 
Other sorts of things that would be useful would dotted /dashed lines. And different symbols e.g.. circular dots, up - down - right and left side arrows. Or possibly and character or even string. I realise this would require interface additions but just food for thought.
 
Cheers
Nick.
 


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#5416 From: "Nick Ali" <nick.ali@...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 8:33 am
Subject: RE: Displacement/Box Style/24 hours (Re: Wish list item - plot styles)
nickali2
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Thanks,
 
As always the responsiveness of the TQ team is greatly appreciated.
 
Cheers,
Nick.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 03 April 2003 16:57
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Displacement/Box Style/24 hours (Re: [neoticker] Wish list item - plot styles)

Will add to wish list.
 
Displacement - Ability to draw disregarding bar visibility in time.  I believe
this is a safe feature for 3.1.
 
"Box style" for indicator - I believe this also safe feature for 3.1.
 
24 hours chart with any starting time - I believe this is a high risk item.
Have to investigate.
 
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:24 AM
Subject: RE: [neoticker] Wish list item - plot styles

Like the box style but with the areas confined by the box 'filled in' similar to the region plot.
 
Cheers,
Nick.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Lin [mailto:lhclin@...]
Sent: 02 April 2003 16:44
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [neoticker] Wish list item - plot styles

Does it look like the "box" style of data series?
-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Ali
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 7:22 AM
Subject: [neoticker] Wish list item - plot styles

There are lots of styles that could be useful.
 
 One in particular that I would use extensively is a combination Region and Hline. Region Hline if you like. This would be the same as region except rather than having the bound formed by sloping lines they would be formed by Hlines. It would also be useful to have a different fills as by there nature regions occupy a lot of chart space. What I am thinking is some sort of opaque fill maybe dots or hatching for example.
 
Other sorts of things that would be useful would dotted /dashed lines. And different symbols e.g.. circular dots, up - down - right and left side arrows. Or possibly and character or even string. I realise this would require interface additions but just food for thought.
 
Cheers
Nick.
 


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#5417 From: "Randy Dick" <rddick@...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 3:32 pm
Subject: Saving RAM Cache in NT 3.0
rd2546
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Can I control how frequently the RAM Cache is saved to Disk Cache with
NT 3.0?

How often is it supposed to save RAM Cache to Disk Cache by default?

I have the RAM Cache Options\Smart Tools\Enable Auto Save option checked
and I've been monitoring the 20030404 Disk Cache tick file for the last
hour and it has not increased in size.

Thanks,
Randy Dick

#5418 From: "stnahc" <stnahc@...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 5:29 pm
Subject: Re: Saving RAM Cache in NT 3.0
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--- In neoticker@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Dick" <rddick@s...> wrote:
>
> Can I control how frequently the RAM Cache is saved to Disk Cache
with
> NT 3.0?

not in 3.0.

>
> How often is it supposed to save RAM Cache to Disk Cache by default?

should be less than an hour, and also on exit of NeoTicker.

>
> I have the RAM Cache Options\Smart Tools\Enable Auto Save option
checked
> and I've been monitoring the 20030404 Disk Cache tick file for the
last
> hour and it has not increased in size.
>
> Thanks,
> Randy Dick

the data is in RAM and if NT exit, the ticks saved in ram cache
will be saved.

remember than if and only if a symbol is in RAM cache and it is
set to auto load ticks would you have tick data saved from RAM cache.

so check if you are collecting ticks for those symbols by
verifying the RAM cache listing of symbols.

Lawrence

#5419 From: "Louis Lin" <lhclin@...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 6:37 pm
Subject: NeoTicker 3.0 RC4 is released
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Dear NeoTicker Customers,

This is to let you know NeoTicker 3.0 RC4 has been released.

Full and lease customers can download RC4 in the
customer area:

http://www.tickquest.com/NeoTicker/neotickercust/index.html

Demo users can download RC4 from the page:

http://www.tickquest.com/NeoTicker/downloaddemo.html

Release highlights:
============
- Version 3 Documentation.
- Many improvements in system trading features.
- Various bug fixes.

What's New Since RC3
================
General
------------
- Default to yes for save session.  Default to cancel for force to quit busy
window.
- Various wording improvements in UI.
- Except for function windows, page up/page down can be used to scroll list
boxes.

Context Sensitve Help
--------------------------------
- The help file for 3.0 is mostly done and has been integrated into RC4.

Quote window
--------------------
- New fields - UpFromCloseVol, DnFromCloseVol.

Chain Replace
---------------------
- It is now non-blocking.

Formula
------------
- New functions:
   InTimeRange(time, fromtime, totime)
   InDateRange(dtae, fromdate, todate)
   InDateTimeRange(datetime, fromdatetime, todatetime)

Indicators
--------------
- Indicators that take color as parameter now has drop down list of more
color choices.
- Parameters drop down now displays more choices before switching to a
scroll list mode.
- Improved speed for non-trading system related indicators.

Cache Manager
-----------------------
- New maintenance tab.  For removing RAM cache temp files, which can become
corrupted when NeoTicker abnormally exit.

System Performance Viewer
------------------------------------------
- Position winner by time chart changed from stack bars to side bars for
easier viewing.
- Can reconstruct equity curve based on positions taken.  Useful for trade
simulator where an equity curve is not present.
- Position query. Use expression like >5, <>2 to query fields.
- Wording change in transaction list.
- Smaller initial open window size.
- Print with indicator name.
- Improved color for negative values.
- Flashing loading sign.

BacktestEZ
-----------------
- Target style - OnClose
- Target style Bars and Bars 1/2 Position.

ItSelf Object
-----------------
- New method itself.custombarfuturedatetime(TimePeriod, TimePeriodSize,
BarsIntoFuture, CurrentTime)

Trade Object
-----------------
- New order placement methods
    BuyNextClose(Size, Comment)
    SellNextClose(Size, Comment)
    LongNextClose(Size, Comment)
    ShortNextClose(Size, Comment)
    LongExitNextClose(Size, Comment)
    ShortExitNextClose(Size, Comment)

    BuyNextCloseEx(Issue, Size, Comment)
    SellNextCloseEx(Issue, Size, Comment)
    LongNextCloseEx(Issue, Size, Comment)
    ShortNextCloseEx(Issue, Size, Comment)
    LongExitNextCloseEx(Issue, Size, Comment)
    ShortExitNextCloseEx(Issue, Size, Comment)

- New cancel methods
    CancelAllExitOrders
    CancelAllExitOrdersEx(Issue)

- New Properties
    NumOpenPositions

System Info
-----------------
- Now report RAM size.

DDE Link Manager
---------------------------
- Better memory management.


-----------------
Louis Lin
TickQuest Inc    www.tickquest.com

#5420 From: "Randy Dick" <rddick@...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 6:11 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Saving RAM Cache in NT 3.0
rd2546
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Lawrence,
 
I used the NT\Cache Manager\Ram Cache dialog to confirm that I had the symbol in RAM Cache during my test.  I also had it set to "Insert as Locked symbol", "Auto Cleanup" disabled and "Auto Save" enabled.  I'm using a time chart to load the symbols. 
 
Are the above settings to sufficient to get the RAM saved?
 
I'm not sure which dialog I need to review to set the "Auto Load Ticks" feature that you referred to below.
 
I reviewed my NT\Cache Manager\Ram Cache\Options\Days To Load dialog and none of the Preload boxes are checked for Tick, Minute, or Daily, but when I read the help file it indicated that this dialog didn't apply to Time Charts, so I ignored the settings.  Are these the settings you're referring to as set to "Auto Load Ticks"?
 
Thanks,
Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: stnahc [mailto:stnahc@...]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 11:29 AM
To: neoticker@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [neoticker] Re: Saving RAM Cache in NT 3.0

--- In neoticker@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Dick" <rddick@s...> wrote:
>
> Can I control how frequently the RAM Cache is saved to Disk Cache with
> NT 3.0?

not in 3.0.

>
> How often is it supposed to save RAM Cache to Disk Cache by default?

should be less than an hour, and also on exit of NeoTicker.

>
> I have the RAM Cache Options\Smart Tools\Enable Auto Save option checked
> and I've been monitoring the 20030404 Disk Cache tick file for the last
> hour and it has not increased in size.
>
> Thanks,
> Randy Dick

the data is in RAM and if NT exit, the ticks saved in ram cache
will be saved.

remember than if and only if a symbol is in RAM cache and it is
set to auto load ticks would you have tick data saved from RAM cache.

so check if you are collecting ticks for those symbols by
verifying the RAM cache listing of symbols.

Lawrence

#5421 From: "Raymond Deux" <rdeux@...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 8:12 pm
Subject: RC4 Crashes in the middle of opening up my group
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Attached is my group and system info. I have tried twice after installation, then rebooted machine, tried 3rd time and still crashes.
---------------------------------
Regards,
Raymond Deux

#5422 From: "Raymond Deux" <rdeux@...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 8:49 pm
Subject: Re: RC4 Crashes in the middle of opening up my group
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OK, I was able to load my group in RC4, but I had to pre-load my symbol list. Once I did this, my group was able to load. I have the pre-load list loaded into a quote sheet and that seemed to be where it crashed.
 
On another note,
 
I have seen this several times. My tick charts look different when loaded pre-market vs during market hours. The difference is that I get big gaps between session break lines. In the pre-market load, I dont get the gap, I get a consistent trade. During market hours, the same symbol and chart will load with a gap at session break. See attached chart.
 
 
---------------------------------
Regards,
Raymond Deux
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Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 1:12 PM
Subject: [neoticker] RC4 Crashes in the middle of opening up my group

Attached is my group and system info. I have tried twice after installation, then rebooted machine, tried 3rd time and still crashes.
---------------------------------
Regards,
Raymond Deux


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#5423 From: "Raymond Deux" <rdeux@...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 9:00 pm
Subject: Tick Indicator in Dynamic Grid
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1/2 the problem has been fixed. I have three cells, each with the tick indicator using 3 different TICK data series of the same instrument. All of the indicators are in sync, meaning they initiated at the same time and counted properly. Where its incorrect is that its not correctly showing me what % of the current tick bar is complete. For example, I have a 70 tick bar chart. The tick indicator in the grid will rollover from 70 to 1, at which time I expect a new bar to start, but this is not true. To get around this problem, I am going to use the same indicator, but plot it on the chart and turn visibility OFF so all I see is a floating marker count from 1-70. When this float marker rolls over, the new bar is started. I would like the grid cell to operate identical to this.
 
Thanks
---------------------------------
Regards,
Raymond Deux

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