A link is posted on my web site to the YouTube video with a device that
demonstrates control over wardforce (push-pull part of a magnetic field).
SteveW
www.energy-ingenuity.com

By definition, wardforce is the push-pull part of a magnetic field.  This force
will be demonstrated on the next video I will be posting on YouTube.  I am
working on the video now and in the next two weeks it should be posted.  I will
cause the push and the pull to be demonstrated on the same device, also proving
that wardforce can be manipulated to generate torque.
SteveW
www.energy-ingenuity.com

Thank you so very much for trying to get an answer.
SteveW

--- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, "witrli" <WitLi@...> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> I did a quick www search for the original Lenz publishings, but could not find
any yet. In German it is usually called "Lenzsche Regel" which accurately means
"Lenz' Rule", and therefore exceptions to such a rule should also be possible. I
think he found out in the year 1833, so this is the timestamp to look for.
>
> good luck!
>
> WiLi
>
> --- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, "SteveW" <EnergyIngenuity@> wrote:
> >
> > Like I said, the papers where he describes his findings and how he can to
his conclusions.  How else can I challenge his claims?  I say his tests were
incomplete.  If I could get the papers I could prove my point.
> >
> > I have posted more on my web site this morning and I will put more as time
allows.  www.energy-ingenuity.com
> >
> > --- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Quale <magnetomaniac@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > To Steve, I merely am avoiding Lenz's Law effects. You cannot eliminate or
destroy this law. Google search and do some research. Here is one place to
start  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenz%27s_law  and try looking at this page
on my website and look at the videos on the player at the bottom of the page
titled Lenz's law http://www.overunitybuilder.com/lenzlessquale.html
> > >
> >
>

Steve,

I did a quick www search for the original Lenz publishings, but could not find
any yet. In German it is usually called "Lenzsche Regel" which accurately means
"Lenz' Rule", and therefore exceptions to such a rule should also be possible. I
think he found out in the year 1833, so this is the timestamp to look for.

good luck!

WiLi

--- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, "SteveW" <EnergyIngenuity@...> wrote:
>
> Like I said, the papers where he describes his findings and how he can to his
conclusions.  How else can I challenge his claims?  I say his tests were
incomplete.  If I could get the papers I could prove my point.
>
> I have posted more on my web site this morning and I will put more as time
allows.  www.energy-ingenuity.com
>
> --- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Quale <magnetomaniac@> wrote:
> >
> > To Steve, I merely am avoiding Lenz's Law effects. You cannot eliminate or
destroy this law. Google search and do some research. Here is one place to
start  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenz%27s_law  and try looking at this page
on my website and look at the videos on the player at the bottom of the page
titled Lenz's law http://www.overunitybuilder.com/lenzlessquale.html
> >
>

Who do I show this part of the magnetic field exists? How many people need to
see it before others get involved? A&M, LIT, attendies of the Houston Inventers
Tradeshow, etc... just to name a few qualified GROUPS, who have attended one of
these demonstrations. The main point is, I offer PHYSICAL PROOF and all I get
is, people who have seen nothing physical, telling me I am wrong. I have
demonstrated to many people, yet no one who has seen my demonstration, has said
my claims are not true. Come see for youself. Don't tell me I am wrong, with out
seeing what I have to offer.

Like I said, the papers where he describes his findings and how he can to his
conclusions.  How else can I challenge his claims?  I say his tests were
incomplete.  If I could get the papers I could prove my point.

I have posted more on my web site this morning and I will put more as time
allows.  www.energy-ingenuity.com

--- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Quale <magnetomaniac@...>
wrote:
>
> To Steve, I merely am avoiding Lenz's Law effects. You cannot eliminate or
destroy this law. Google search and do some research. Here is one place to
start  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenz%27s_law  and try looking at this page
on my website and look at the videos on the player at the bottom of the page
titled Lenz's law http://www.overunitybuilder.com/lenzlessquale.html
>

On your web site, you say are not using the lynz law.  Can you get a copy of the
papers in English where he describes test which led to his deduction?  The
papers from where this law of physics comes.

How about this book Poggendorff's Annal. Bd. LXI. Pg 18-49?  Maybe this will
have the papers I am looking for.

--- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, "SteveW" <EnergyIngenuity@...> wrote:
>
> I need the papers where the "Lynz Law" was deducted.  I was told around 1990
this is where the papers were found.  I don't know because I don't know German. 
The only people I knew from Germany said they could not read it and I never
found out until now.
>
> Can you get these papers I am asking for? The papers telling how he formed his
conclusions concerning this "Law of Physics" called the "Lynz Law".
>
>
> --- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, "witrli" <WitLi@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > I just looked through the said article of LEnz on
> >
> > http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k15146z.pleinepage.f64.langFR
> >
> > but I find nothing concerning magnetism there. Lenz only presents thermal
effects dependant from current. He uses different material of wires in a bath of
alcohol and the like and measures temperature.
> >
> > Are you sure you can use that?
> >
> > I am German and understand most of what he writes about.
> >
> > Only my time is very limited also.
> >
> > all the best
> >
> > WiLi
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <EnergyIngenuity@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I was 15 or 16 when my teacher, Mr. Nors, after what I like to call long
> > > discussions, and talking to his professor from SHU.  Told me I should
build
> > > something and get it patented.   I have been working with physical devices
> > > from 1989 and had video posted on geocities web site, then.   Maybe, these
> > > people you are speaking of, works come from what I have posted and/or
talked
> > > about thru the years.  The important part of what I am saying now, is
> > > another part of the magnetic field exists and can be manipulated.  No
others
> > > know the cause or, they would make the claim I am, about another part of
the
> > > magnetic field existing.  This is why I need the papers from where the
Lynz
> > > Law was deducted translated in English.  Can you get a copy of his papers
> > > translated into English?  The book is  Poggendorf Annuals LXI 1844, Pg 18
-
> > > Pg 49 written in archaic technical German with diagrams, may give me what
I
> > > need to bring my findings out in the open.  How can I challenge this "Law
of
> > > Physics" if I cannot read and understand the claims and how he came to his
> > > conclusions.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The demonstrations, I have been giving, do not show the 33 years of
testing
> > > which support my claims and help prove this other part of the magnetic
> > > field, force not north/south poles, exists.   The demonstrations do show
> > > reactions different from what I believe Lynz witnessed, because his test
was
> > > incomplete.  In the demonstrations, I explain, showing this force exists
> > > with a simple test using the devices I show.  I hear nothing, related to a
> > > magnet other than North-South poles being talked about.  This to me means,
> > > no one has witnessed what my partner, my children, others who have
attended
> > > demonstrations and I have, with regards to a magnetic field.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On the other hand I need a microscope camera 20X-100X range.  This is for
> > > another project, which I feel is greater than energy from magnets.  I have
> > > found one for about $200.00 and I hope it will do a good job on the
pictures
> > > I need.  The purpose for taking pictures is, if something happens to
> > > samples, one of us, or anything else, evidence of our study will exists
for
> > > others to continue.  Because, if we don't teach others what we have
learned,
> > > what good does it do for the future of mankind?  Do you have a camera for
a
> > > microscope?  Know anyone who will donate one to the cause or the $200.00? 
I
> > > will share my findings and pictures.  After all, the reason for the
pictures
> > > is, for others to see what we have seen.  I don't know enough to say what
> > > this is about yet, just at this point I feel, it is greater than energy
from
> > > magnets only.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > More information can be found on my web site www.energy-ingenuity.com
> > >
> >
>

I need the papers where the "Lynz Law" was deducted.  I was told around 1990
this is where the papers were found.  I don't know because I don't know German. 
The only people I knew from Germany said they could not read it and I never
found out until now.

Can you get these papers I am asking for? The papers telling how he formed his
conclusions concerning this "Law of Physics" called the "Lynz Law".


--- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, "witrli" <WitLi@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I just looked through the said article of LEnz on
>
> http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k15146z.pleinepage.f64.langFR
>
> but I find nothing concerning magnetism there. Lenz only presents thermal
effects dependant from current. He uses different material of wires in a bath of
alcohol and the like and measures temperature.
>
> Are you sure you can use that?
>
> I am German and understand most of what he writes about.
>
> Only my time is very limited also.
>
> all the best
>
> WiLi
>
>
>
> --- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <EnergyIngenuity@> wrote:
> >
> > I was 15 or 16 when my teacher, Mr. Nors, after what I like to call long
> > discussions, and talking to his professor from SHU.  Told me I should build
> > something and get it patented.   I have been working with physical devices
> > from 1989 and had video posted on geocities web site, then.   Maybe, these
> > people you are speaking of, works come from what I have posted and/or talked
> > about thru the years.  The important part of what I am saying now, is
> > another part of the magnetic field exists and can be manipulated.  No others
> > know the cause or, they would make the claim I am, about another part of the
> > magnetic field existing.  This is why I need the papers from where the Lynz
> > Law was deducted translated in English.  Can you get a copy of his papers
> > translated into English?  The book is  Poggendorf Annuals LXI 1844, Pg 18 -
> > Pg 49 written in archaic technical German with diagrams, may give me what I
> > need to bring my findings out in the open.  How can I challenge this "Law of
> > Physics" if I cannot read and understand the claims and how he came to his
> > conclusions.
> >
> >
> >
> > The demonstrations, I have been giving, do not show the 33 years of testing
> > which support my claims and help prove this other part of the magnetic
> > field, force not north/south poles, exists.   The demonstrations do show
> > reactions different from what I believe Lynz witnessed, because his test was
> > incomplete.  In the demonstrations, I explain, showing this force exists
> > with a simple test using the devices I show.  I hear nothing, related to a
> > magnet other than North-South poles being talked about.  This to me means,
> > no one has witnessed what my partner, my children, others who have attended
> > demonstrations and I have, with regards to a magnetic field.
> >
> >
> >
> > On the other hand I need a microscope camera 20X-100X range.  This is for
> > another project, which I feel is greater than energy from magnets.  I have
> > found one for about $200.00 and I hope it will do a good job on the pictures
> > I need.  The purpose for taking pictures is, if something happens to
> > samples, one of us, or anything else, evidence of our study will exists for
> > others to continue.  Because, if we don't teach others what we have learned,
> > what good does it do for the future of mankind?  Do you have a camera for a
> > microscope?  Know anyone who will donate one to the cause or the $200.00?  I
> > will share my findings and pictures.  After all, the reason for the pictures
> > is, for others to see what we have seen.  I don't know enough to say what
> > this is about yet, just at this point I feel, it is greater than energy from
> > magnets only.
> >
> >
> >
> > More information can be found on my web site www.energy-ingenuity.com
> >
>

From ToyRUs and it was not worth a dime.  I could not see anything worth
keeping, so I took it back.

--- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Quale <magnetomaniac@...>
wrote:
>
> You can buy the microscope that can hook up to a computer at "toys are us" for
under $100.00 US last time I was there. Look online.DQ
>

Hi Steve,

I just looked through the said article of LEnz on

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k15146z.pleinepage.f64.langFR

but I find nothing concerning magnetism there. Lenz only presents thermal
effects dependant from current. He uses different material of wires in a bath of
alcohol and the like and measures temperature.

Are you sure you can use that?

I am German and understand most of what he writes about.

Only my time is very limited also.

all the best

WiLi



--- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <EnergyIngenuity@...> wrote:
>
> I was 15 or 16 when my teacher, Mr. Nors, after what I like to call long
> discussions, and talking to his professor from SHU.  Told me I should build
> something and get it patented.   I have been working with physical devices
> from 1989 and had video posted on geocities web site, then.   Maybe, these
> people you are speaking of, works come from what I have posted and/or talked
> about thru the years.  The important part of what I am saying now, is
> another part of the magnetic field exists and can be manipulated.  No others
> know the cause or, they would make the claim I am, about another part of the
> magnetic field existing.  This is why I need the papers from where the Lynz
> Law was deducted translated in English.  Can you get a copy of his papers
> translated into English?  The book is  Poggendorf Annuals LXI 1844, Pg 18 -
> Pg 49 written in archaic technical German with diagrams, may give me what I
> need to bring my findings out in the open.  How can I challenge this "Law of
> Physics" if I cannot read and understand the claims and how he came to his
> conclusions.
>
>
>
> The demonstrations, I have been giving, do not show the 33 years of testing
> which support my claims and help prove this other part of the magnetic
> field, force not north/south poles, exists.   The demonstrations do show
> reactions different from what I believe Lynz witnessed, because his test was
> incomplete.  In the demonstrations, I explain, showing this force exists
> with a simple test using the devices I show.  I hear nothing, related to a
> magnet other than North-South poles being talked about.  This to me means,
> no one has witnessed what my partner, my children, others who have attended
> demonstrations and I have, with regards to a magnetic field.
>
>
>
> On the other hand I need a microscope camera 20X-100X range.  This is for
> another project, which I feel is greater than energy from magnets.  I have
> found one for about $200.00 and I hope it will do a good job on the pictures
> I need.  The purpose for taking pictures is, if something happens to
> samples, one of us, or anything else, evidence of our study will exists for
> others to continue.  Because, if we don't teach others what we have learned,
> what good does it do for the future of mankind?  Do you have a camera for a
> microscope?  Know anyone who will donate one to the cause or the $200.00?  I
> will share my findings and pictures.  After all, the reason for the pictures
> is, for others to see what we have seen.  I don't know enough to say what
> this is about yet, just at this point I feel, it is greater than energy from
> magnets only.
>
>
>
> More information can be found on my web site www.energy-ingenuity.com
>

Would anyone on this group want to attend a demonstration?


--- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <EnergyIngenuity@...> wrote:
>
> I was 15 or 16 when my teacher, Mr. Nors, after what I like to call long
> discussions, and talking to his professor from SHU.  Told me I should build
> something and get it patented.   I have been working with physical devices
> from 1989 and had video posted on geocities web site, then.   Maybe, these
> people you are speaking of, works come from what I have posted and/or talked
> about thru the years.  The important part of what I am saying now, is
> another part of the magnetic field exists and can be manipulated.  No others
> know the cause or, they would make the claim I am, about another part of the
> magnetic field existing.  This is why I need the papers from where the Lynz
> Law was deducted translated in English.  Can you get a copy of his papers
> translated into English?  The book is  Poggendorf Annuals LXI 1844, Pg 18 -
> Pg 49 written in archaic technical German with diagrams, may give me what I
> need to bring my findings out in the open.  How can I challenge this "Law of
> Physics" if I cannot read and understand the claims and how he came to his
> conclusions.
>
>
>
> The demonstrations, I have been giving, do not show the 33 years of testing
> which support my claims and help prove this other part of the magnetic
> field, force not north/south poles, exists.   The demonstrations do show
> reactions different from what I believe Lynz witnessed, because his test was
> incomplete.  In the demonstrations, I explain, showing this force exists
> with a simple test using the devices I show.  I hear nothing, related to a
> magnet other than North-South poles being talked about.  This to me means,
> no one has witnessed what my partner, my children, others who have attended
> demonstrations and I have, with regards to a magnetic field.
>
>
>
> On the other hand I need a microscope camera 20X-100X range.  This is for
> another project, which I feel is greater than energy from magnets.  I have
> found one for about $200.00 and I hope it will do a good job on the pictures
> I need.  The purpose for taking pictures is, if something happens to
> samples, one of us, or anything else, evidence of our study will exists for
> others to continue.  Because, if we don't teach others what we have learned,
> what good does it do for the future of mankind?  Do you have a camera for a
> microscope?  Know anyone who will donate one to the cause or the $200.00?  I
> will share my findings and pictures.  After all, the reason for the pictures
> is, for others to see what we have seen.  I don't know enough to say what
> this is about yet, just at this point I feel, it is greater than energy from
> magnets only.
>
>
>
> More information can be found on my web site www.energy-ingenuity.com
>

Hi everyone,
This pix shows you what i'm doing for the interference plates in a bit
more detail...

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn236/kevin_barlow/PICT0036.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn236/kevin_barlow/PICT0037.jpg

Comments, questions as allways, just shout

CW

i spent most of the day drawing on my generator rotor...

As a result i now know where my interference plates are going...

Pix for those interested

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn236/kevin_barlow/PICT0033.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn236/kevin_barlow/PICT0034.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn236/kevin_barlow/PICT0035.jpg

I worked out the spacing, and i can fit 16 large coils, I changed the
drive system to use 5 magnets instead of 4...

I'm goint to run spacing for large coils on one side and small coils on
the other, that way i can directly compair outputs...
Also, it means that i have the option to play with standard sized coils
if i wish to...

Let me know what you all think...

Thanks

Big is right. Thanx for the Pic's. Now I can see how much bigger we're talking.

--- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, "comwarrior69@..." <comwarrior69@...>
wrote:
>
> ok, erm...
> I disasembled my build 3 and started building build 4...
>
> Erm... crap it's big!
>
> PIX 1
> <http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn236/kevin_barlow/PICT0030.jpg>
> PIX 2
> <http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn236/kevin_barlow/PICT0031.jpg>
> PIX 3
> <http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn236/kevin_barlow/PICT0032.jpg>
>
> The rotor that you can see in the pix... is quite heavy... it's going to
> have to be lightened...
>
> I believe i have the bigest build, with the exception of MALLEN...
>
> Let me know what you think...
>

----- Original Message -----

From: comwarrior69@...

To: overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:28 PM

Subject: [overunitybuilders] Build commenced! holy crap i'm nurvous now!

 

ok, erm...
I disasembled my build 3 and started building build 4...

Erm... crap it's big!

PIX 1
PIX 2
PIX 3

The rotor that you can see in the pix... is quite heavy... it's going to have to be lightened...

I believe i have the bigest build, with the exception of MALLEN...

Let me know what you think...

Dan, thanks for all the help. (and everyone else)

I'm just making you aware that i've just published generator 'plans' based uppon
your lenz less generator...

I have given you full credit and have linked to both your utube videos and the
overunitybuilder website...

At the moment, the only location for these plans is here,
http://teep.forumco.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=302

I've nick named it the USO generator (Unidentified Spinning Object).

I'd be interested to know what you think, and hopefully you won't object.

Thanks

CW

Granted this may be a while off, but im am investigating purchasing a 6 foot
length of low carbon steel (30$ range) rod from McMaster-carr.  I'm currently
picking up OT at work to start building some extra funds for materials.

Building may take a while, since i recently moved and i don't have access to
tools where i'm at, i'll have to have a friend back home do a large amount of
fabrication for me, and send me the pieces, i'll deal with the windings.

--- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Quale <magnetomaniac@...>
wrote:
>
> THE MAGNETS ONLY NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE CORES TO MAGNETIZE
THEM. LONG CORES CAN BE USED AND ARE PREFERRED TO SHORT ONES AS THEY WILL
PROVIDE BETTER OUTPUT BY ALLOWING MORE TURNS ALONG THE CORE AND AVAILABLE
CHANGING FLUX FOR EACH COIL. BUT I HAVE FOUND THAT THE CERAMIC RING MAGNETS WILL
FEEL A REPULSIVE FORCE AT UP TO 12" APART. YOU COULD PROBABLY USE 2 FOOT LENGTHS
OF IRON FOR CORE WITH STRONG MAGNETS. JUST TEST THE CORES BY HOLDING ONE AT THE
WORKING DISTANCE FROM ONE OF THE MAGNETS AND CHECK THAT IS IS MAGNETIZED AT THE
OTHER END. DO THIS WITH ONLY ONE MAGNET BEFORE TRYING TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION. I
THINK THAT WITH A STRONG RARE-EARTH MAGNET YOU COULD GET A 2 FOOT IRON ROD
MAGNETIZED STRONGLY EVEN IF HELD AT MORE THAN 1 INCH FROM THE MAGNET. ALSO USE
THICKER IRON INDUCTORS TO COMPLETELY DIVERT THE FLUX FROM STRONGER MAGNETS, TOO
THIN INDUCTORS WILL ALLOW EXCESS FLUX TO PASS THROUGH THE INDUCTORS REDUCING
OUTPUT. DQ
>

Some pictures, please!


--- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Quale <magnetomaniac@...>
wrote:
>
> THE MAGNETS ONLY NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE CORES TO MAGNETIZE
THEM. LONG CORES CAN BE USED AND ARE PREFERRED TO SHORT ONES AS THEY WILL
PROVIDE BETTER OUTPUT BY ALLOWING MORE TURNS ALONG THE CORE AND AVAILABLE
CHANGING FLUX FOR EACH COIL. BUT I HAVE FOUND THAT THE CERAMIC RING MAGNETS WILL
FEEL A REPULSIVE FORCE AT UP TO 12" APART. YOU COULD PROBABLY USE 2 FOOT LENGTHS
OF IRON FOR CORE WITH STRONG MAGNETS. JUST TEST THE CORES BY HOLDING ONE AT THE
WORKING DISTANCE FROM ONE OF THE MAGNETS AND CHECK THAT IS IS MAGNETIZED AT THE
OTHER END. DO THIS WITH ONLY ONE MAGNET BEFORE TRYING TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION. I
THINK THAT WITH A STRONG RARE-EARTH MAGNET YOU COULD GET A 2 FOOT IRON ROD
MAGNETIZED STRONGLY EVEN IF HELD AT MORE THAN 1 INCH FROM THE MAGNET. ALSO USE
THICKER IRON INDUCTORS TO COMPLETELY DIVERT THE FLUX FROM STRONGER MAGNETS, TOO
THIN INDUCTORS WILL ALLOW EXCESS FLUX TO PASS THROUGH THE INDUCTORS REDUCING
OUTPUT. DQ
>

I would think the difference between the inside diameter and outside diameter of
the ring magnet would govern the diameter of your core material.

Cost aside, would a bigger diameter core be more effective for creating more
electricity on the lenzless generator.

Yes i do realize there are multiple variables such as revs per minute, core
diameter, number of coils, core length, wire gauge used, so lets just try to
answer my question, and ill try to apply as much common sense as i can to the
other variables.

-Screwball

indeed, magent north poles need to be pointed at each other, i reccomend using
north poles they seem to give better results than using south poles.

now, coil lenght, depending on you're core material you should be able to have
any lenght...

i reccomend experimenting first...

CW

--- In overunitybuilders@yahoogroups.com, "screwball3z" <screwball3z@...> wrote:
>
> I have read the Magnets need to repel each other.  Do the magnets need to be
close enough that they can affect each other, or can the coils and cores be long
enough that the magnets do not effect each other.
>
> I am thinking of building a smaller version utilizing Neodymium rings, which
will want to fight each other much more than ferrites, thats why i ask.
>

I have read the Magnets need to repel each other.  Do the magnets need to be
close enough that they can affect each other, or can the coils and cores be long
enough that the magnets do not effect each other.

I am thinking of building a smaller version utilizing Neodymium rings, which
will want to fight each other much more than ferrites, thats why i ask.