Robert, We can take this back and forth for several days. The bottom line is (as I explained to you in a private post) that without taking a look at the book...
Has anybody ever tried what Richard Morales refered as "Personal Performance Management" which put PM on employee's hands? Cheers, Rudy Fang ... difference...
BTW, I thought I'd provide another reference in regard to my position that performance appraisals should be abolished. Robert was quite kind to provide us ...
Gary and Robert: I have very much enjoyed the interchange. Actually, as a lurker tasked with developing a PM system for my org (>2000 Ee's) I am learning a...
Gerhart, Charles
charles.gerhart@...
Jun 2, 2003 5:02 pm
5516
... That's good to hear. I think that one of the benefits of discussion lists is exposure to different perspectives, although some people don't agree with...
... There are actually two major proponents (three if you include Deming) in this school, Coens is the latest. The other is Sholtes. My work in this field...
I've been slowly working on "helpcards" that cover different aspects of the performance management and appraisal process. Their purpose is to provide something...
Robert, I'll echo your sentiments on our discussion. Despite how it might seem to the list, we really do get along pretty well, and often e-mail each other...
Greetings from Oz, We have recently conducted an evaluation of this Department's PM Framework and it came as absolutely no surprise to us that "feedback" is...
Willmott, Murray
murray.willmott@...
Jun 2, 2003 11:57 pm
5521
... Murray, could you elaborate a little on the "something" you are looking for? It's a big universe out there. Are you looking for a training method, or job...
Dear Gary I was interested in an earlier comment you made: " In fact, Performance Appraisals are one of the first ... discussion." ... don't think so, and have...
... Well... I'm not one of them! I believe PM - whatever terminology one might use to discuss it, is about influencing behaviour in the workplace, so such ...
Kim Parks
kimparks@...
Jun 3, 2003 2:38 am
5524
Hi Gary, ... What about those whose primary motivation for being in the workforce at all is to pay the bills and mortgage? What you are proposing may apply to...
Kim Parks
kimparks@...
Jun 3, 2003 2:38 am
5525
Robert et al, ... for? It's a big universe out there. I was deliberately vague about the "something" although cost is definitely a factor as I said. This is...
Willmott, Murray
murray.willmott@...
Jun 3, 2003 4:40 pm
5526
Kim, One of the primary things that need to change in an organization when it transforms its culture is to create a shift in the employees from being primarily...
Julian, Some excellent questions and you are correct that a culture shift is necessary. Actually, in our work we aren't usually asked to come in and help deal...
I'm with Kim on this one. I don't see it so much here in the library system, but during the decades I worked at manufacturing plants, I came across a lot of...
... By and large the research (I don't know about "yours") on this is misinterpreted, I think as you may have done above. It's hard to tell, because the effect...
... I'm almost getting to the point where I'm tempted to add a new list rule and that is that if you say "the research says..." that you'd better start...
... I think the problem is that Gary is really overstating his points so that we lose the value of those points. I think it is possible, in some cases (even in...
I'm posting this to three lists. Apologies to those who belong to all three and receive three copies of this. Almost twenty-four years ago I published an...
... I don't know exactly what would fit. I know the kinds of things I'm producing on this and related topics, but they are basically "job aids" to help carry...
Robert, Let's make something clear right away. I never said that money wasn't motivating. I said it was an extrinsic motivator, and as such, it's a really ...
Folks, About the issue of money. I wonder if it is too simple to revert to the old Herzberg and his theory about Motivator and Hygiene factors. I have always...
Willmott, Murray
murray.willmott@...
Jun 4, 2003 1:03 am
5537
... Gary: You had better be interested in the short term -- and the long term as well -- and you had better be interested in the fit between the two. If ...
Mike, I'm not talking about downtrodden people who've had the life sucked out of them, either (although there are those out there, too). But those people who...
So, Fred -- For those organizations who are interested in the short-term, but want to make the adjustment to long-term, what suggestions can be provided in...
Pam Chrusciel
crfchruscpg@...
Jun 4, 2003 2:28 am
5540
Fred, Sure, you have to deal with the here and now. No one's going to argue with that. But if you only look at the solutions that are focused on the now and ...
... Here's a web page that talks about bogus (and often commonly respouted) research on workplace issues that is both eye opening and informative. The original...
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