agree 100% Ned.

That's not PR, that's spam.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Ned Barnett <ned@...> wrote:

> Dear pr.pros
>
> First, I suggest that if you want the help of your colleagues, you let us
> know who you are. It's just professionally courteous to sign your emails,
> especially if you're not well-known on the list - plus, you're more likely
> to get helpful answers.
>
> Second, if you're going to be a pr.pro, I suggest you work on improving
> your
> grammar and syntax; frankly, your message came across like a student's
> query
> for a paper, and this list doesn't particularly welcome students asking us
> to do their class work for them (that happens more than you might think).
> Of course, it could just be a typo - God knows how many of those I've
> "committed" - but when asking for help, I suggest you put your best foot
> forward.
>
> Third, and this is the biggie, if you're asking for help, you might want to
> set the stage by telling us why you want that help. Give us something that
> would put your question in context.
>
> For instance, while I'm not the world's Guru on online resources, I do know
> that I'm now in my 37th year in PR, and that since 1994, many of my clients
> and most of my communications (with clients and the media) have taken place
> online. Yet I don't have a clue what you're really asking, nor what you
> really want that information for.
>
> I can tell you that lots of people speak highly of Peter Shankman's Help a
> Reporter site - I've not yet found it helpful, but then I haven't invested
> the time needed to work that list. I generally stick to ProfNet, but then
> again, that's personal choice (and an expensive one) which has born fruit
> for me since the late 90s. I can't be totally objective about Peter's site
> - he and I had a falling out a few years ago, and my recent lack of
> postings
> from that list suggest that Peter's not yet ready to let bygones be bygones
> - but that's got nothing to do with his service. I know my webmaster thinks
> highly of it.
>
> I've never heard of Pitch Engine - it may be one of those multi-million
> spring-up-from-nothing PR sites that seem to have proliferated. I get
> postings almost daily from half a dozen social networking sites that send
> me
> (to me, useless) information about PR . perhaps this is one of them. Or
> perhaps it's the best thing since sliced bread. Since I've got no clue what
> you want it for, I can't even check the site out and give you an opinion.
>
> I've at least heard of Media Bistro, but since I'm not looking to have
> lunch
> with a reporter (they always stick me with the check) and because I've
> found
> Internet meals to be way-low in calories (I prefer analog meals to
> digital),
> I can't give you an opinion there, either.
>
> So . let us know who you are, why you're asking and what you're hoping to
> do
> with the information, and some of us may be able to help.
>
> As for kicking this off for 2009, kicking what off? Another online list of
> PR resources nobody's got time to work with? Or collecting unclear and
> unfocused emails? Give us a clue, here, pr.pros, what do you have in mind?
> How will kicking "this" off for 2009 help us? Maybe this is the best idea
> of the 21st Century, but based on what you've told us (and, more important,
> what you haven't told us), I don't have a clue. I suspect none of the
> others
> here on this list do, either. However, they're more polite than I am, and
> are waiting for some curmudgeon like me to ask. So here you go - the ball's
> back in your court.
>
> Give us a clue? Thanks
>
> Ned
>
> Ned Barnett, APR
>
> Marketing/PR Fellow, American Hospital Association
>
> Barnett Marketing Communications
>
> 420 N. Nellis Blvd. A3-276
>
> Las Vegas NV 89110
>
> 702-696-1200 - ned@... <ned%40barnettmarcom.com>
>
> http://www.barnettmarcom.com
>
> From: prbytes@yahoogroups.com <prbytes%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> prbytes@yahoogroups.com <prbytes%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> pr.pros
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:08 AM
> To: prbytes@yahoogroups.com <prbytes%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [prbytes] PR Tools for 2009 (please add on)
>
>
> I am listing the only tools that I know of that really has helped me
> out-does anyone have listservs or any links that help PRs get to the
> right person?
>
> 1. http://www.helpareporter.com/
> 2. http://www.pitchengine.com/ (HAVENT TRIED but saw on twitter)
> 3. http://www.mediabistro.com
> 4. this egroups (please list any that you think we should add)
>
> I am not sure if this was done before but perhaps we can kick this off
> for 2009?
>
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