Why didn't you introduce yourself first?
If someone I never heard about send me a bunch of links I'll never click on
it.

That's basics of discussion lists, conference calls, workshops, meetings or
any other event where people interact with each other.

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:41 PM, pr.pros <pr.pros@...> wrote:

> Please contact their owner. You are paranoid.
>
> Corrective criticism Ned, your website sucks.
>
> I didn't spam this group. I wanted to start a list of tools for PR
> professionals. It appears to me that I walked into a room filled
> with uptight, self-righteous, judgemental, paranoid..and let me not
> forget RUDE individuals.
>
> Sorry to crash this party.
>
> Moderator, please kindly remove me from this group. And, do you
> honesttttlllly think that I'd put MY link to a EMAIL GROUP without
> engaging you -- FIRST about my product. That's true EMAIL MARKETING.
>
> You are ALL rude!
>
> I hope that I am allowed to have a rebuttal since my posts are
> moderated. These jerks are trulllllllly closed minded.
>
> -- In prbytes@yahoogroups.com <prbytes%40yahoogroups.com>, "Eduardo
> Giansante" <edubatera@...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > agree 100% Ned.
> >
> > That's not PR, that's spam.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Ned Barnett <ned@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear pr.pros
> > >
> > > First, I suggest that if you want the help of your colleagues,
> you let us
> > > know who you are. It's just professionally courteous to sign your
> emails,
> > > especially if you're not well-known on the list - plus, you're
> more likely
> > > to get helpful answers.
> > >
> > > Second, if you're going to be a pr.pro, I suggest you work on
> improving
> > > your
> > > grammar and syntax; frankly, your message came across like a
> student's
> > > query
> > > for a paper, and this list doesn't particularly welcome students
> asking us
> > > to do their class work for them (that happens more than you might
> think).
> > > Of course, it could just be a typo - God knows how many of those
> I've
> > > "committed" - but when asking for help, I suggest you put your
> best foot
> > > forward.
> > >
> > > Third, and this is the biggie, if you're asking for help, you
> might want to
> > > set the stage by telling us why you want that help. Give us
> something that
> > > would put your question in context.
> > >
> > > For instance, while I'm not the world's Guru on online resources,
> I do know
> > > that I'm now in my 37th year in PR, and that since 1994, many of
> my clients
> > > and most of my communications (with clients and the media) have
> taken place
> > > online. Yet I don't have a clue what you're really asking, nor
> what you
> > > really want that information for.
> > >
> > > I can tell you that lots of people speak highly of Peter
> Shankman's Help a
> > > Reporter site - I've not yet found it helpful, but then I haven't
> invested
> > > the time needed to work that list. I generally stick to ProfNet,
> but then
> > > again, that's personal choice (and an expensive one) which has
> born fruit
> > > for me since the late 90s. I can't be totally objective about
> Peter's site
> > > - he and I had a falling out a few years ago, and my recent lack
> of
> > > postings
> > > from that list suggest that Peter's not yet ready to let bygones
> be bygones
> > > - but that's got nothing to do with his service. I know my
> webmaster thinks
> > > highly of it.
> > >
> > > I've never heard of Pitch Engine - it may be one of those multi-
> million
> > > spring-up-from-nothing PR sites that seem to have proliferated. I
> get
> > > postings almost daily from half a dozen social networking sites
> that send
> > > me
> > > (to me, useless) information about PR . perhaps this is one of
> them. Or
> > > perhaps it's the best thing since sliced bread. Since I've got no
> clue what
> > > you want it for, I can't even check the site out and give you an
> opinion.
> > >
> > > I've at least heard of Media Bistro, but since I'm not looking to
> have
> > > lunch
> > > with a reporter (they always stick me with the check) and because
> I've
> > > found
> > > Internet meals to be way-low in calories (I prefer analog meals to
> > > digital),
> > > I can't give you an opinion there, either.
> > >
> > > So . let us know who you are, why you're asking and what you're
> hoping to
> > > do
> > > with the information, and some of us may be able to help.
> > >
> > > As for kicking this off for 2009, kicking what off? Another
> online list of
> > > PR resources nobody's got time to work with? Or collecting
> unclear and
> > > unfocused emails? Give us a clue, here, pr.pros, what do you have
> in mind?
> > > How will kicking "this" off for 2009 help us? Maybe this is the
> best idea
> > > of the 21st Century, but based on what you've told us (and, more
> important,
> > > what you haven't told us), I don't have a clue. I suspect none of
> the
> > > others
> > > here on this list do, either. However, they're more polite than I
> am, and
> > > are waiting for some curmudgeon like me to ask. So here you go -
> the ball's
> > > back in your court.
> > >
> > > Give us a clue? Thanks
> > >
> > > Ned
> > >
> > > Ned Barnett, APR
> > >
> > > Marketing/PR Fellow, American Hospital Association
> > >
> > > Barnett Marketing Communications
> > >
> > > 420 N. Nellis Blvd. A3-276
> > >
> > > Las Vegas NV 89110
> > >
> > > 702-696-1200 - ned@... <ned%40barnettmarcom.com>
> > >
> > > http://www.barnettmarcom.com
> > >
> > > From: prbytes@yahoogroups.com <prbytes%40yahoogroups.com> <prbytes%
> 40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> > > prbytes@yahoogroups.com <prbytes%40yahoogroups.com> <prbytes%
> 40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> > > pr.pros
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:08 AM
> > > To: prbytes@yahoogroups.com <prbytes%40yahoogroups.com> <prbytes%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [prbytes] PR Tools for 2009 (please add on)
> > >
> > >
> > > I am listing the only tools that I know of that really has helped
> me
> > > out-does anyone have listservs or any links that help PRs get to
> the
> > > right person?
> > >
> > > 1. http://www.helpareporter.com/
> > > 2. http://www.pitchengine.com/ (HAVENT TRIED but saw on twitter)
> > > 3. http://www.mediabistro.com
> > > 4. this egroups (please list any that you think we should add)
> > >
> > > I am not sure if this was done before but perhaps we can kick
> this off
> > > for 2009?
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > -Edu Giansante
> > http://edugiansante.com
> > http://www.e-dublin.com.br
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>



--
-Edu Giansante
http://edugiansante.com
http://www.e-dublin.com.br


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