Search the web
Sign In
New User? Sign Up
qrig · QRIG.org Discussions
? Already a member? Sign in to Yahoo!

Yahoo! Groups Tips

Did you know...
Message search is now enhanced, find messages faster. Take it for a spin.

Best of Y! Groups

   Check them out and nominate your group.
Having problems with message search? Fill out this form to ensure your group is one of the first to be migrated to the new message search system.

Messages

  Messages Help
Advanced
Minister for Transport Visits Rail Accident Site   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #53067 of 56605 |
Re: LNP's transport policy release

---
You've got to remember that each car in a current three-car set
carries specific equipment for the entire set to run, remove one of
these cars and none of the other cars work, add another car and
you've got to work out what ancilaries need to be expanded and where
best a car can be put into the consist. Its not going to be a matter
of putting a trailer in between two sets - after all which set is it
going to slave power and air off? Do six/seven car sets become
permanently coupled - therefore meaning you lose 7 cars for each
service instead of three at a time? Unless a fourth car is designed
into the current three car design, trouble aplenty is going to happen.

And in the end, running two or three six car trains every half hour
is going to carry a lot more than one seven car set every thirty
minutes. This concept is a pretty expensive bandaid that doesn't fix
the real problem - train frequency.

Cheers
Arthur

In qrig@yahoogroups.com, richard williams <debnrich66@...> wrote:
>
>
> Why would QR (or whoever - don't care and it is not relevant) need
to re-engineer an SMU? All they would need are some single units
that they could run between the 6 cars. But wouldn't 7 cars need
station lengthening anyway?
>
>




Thu Dec 4, 2008 11:09 pm

akshale
Offline Offline
Send Email Send Email

Forward
Message #53067 of 56605 |
Expand Messages Author Sort by Date

I think Springborg meant that they would get a trailer car in advance and place in the existing but recently delivered 3 car sets. So instead of D-T-D, it...
Shane
shanepolle
Offline Send Email
Dec 4, 2008
7:03 am

... You've got to remember that each car in a current three-car set carries specific equipment for the entire set to run, remove one of these cars and none of...
akshale
Offline Send Email
Dec 4, 2008
11:09 pm

I guess double deck trains are out of the question here because of the loading gauge? Whatever happened to the Melbourne Tangara? Neil ... From: Shane To:...
Neil Crellin
neilcrellin
Offline Send Email
Dec 4, 2008
7:37 am

They chopped it up into little pieces about a year ago. Neill ... the loading gauge? Whatever happened to the Melbourne Tangara? ... sets. ... any ... SMU ... ...
neillfarmer
Offline Send Email
Dec 4, 2008
8:35 am

But why Neill? I rode in the train on a few occasions and it seemed to me to be the answer to Melbourne's peak overloading problems. Why should they scrap a...
Neil Crellin
neilcrellin
Offline Send Email
Dec 4, 2008
11:28 am

I think you will find the issues with the Melbourne set were; - 2 door high density train mixing it with 3 door lower density trains, ie dwell times too long...
Shane
shanepolle
Offline Send Email
Dec 4, 2008
11:51 am

Melbourne's commuter rail is a bigger basket case than Sydney's with a private operator making it an easy excuse and target for a lazy government who, while...
neillfarmer
Offline Send Email
Dec 4, 2008
2:13 pm

Folks Whilst I don't expect to see a Brisbane Underground in my remaining life [20 years, with any luck], if pursued it would be a chance to break away from...
bwebber@...
Send Email
Dec 5, 2008
6:03 am

Yes, a bit hard with the current constraints. I would be hard, though I presume not impossible to fit two levels into 3820mm and allowing for height above...
G S
kenworth_10x6
Offline Send Email
Dec 5, 2008
2:33 pm

No, 3820mm is too low. I'm about 1940mm tall and slightly too tall for Sydney's DD's, so take them to be 1900mm for each level. Thats 3800mm and this leaves no...
Shane
shanepolle
Offline Send Email
Dec 6, 2008
8:12 am

... I think I've heard there's some double decking in South Africa now, but then their clearance standards are wider and higher than most of the NSW system...
akshale
Offline Send Email
Dec 7, 2008
10:29 pm

Or they could model it on the LA Red Line that Brian and I rode in September. All underground, beautiful stations, 10 minute frequency, $1.25 each trip,...
neillfarmer
Offline Send Email
Dec 5, 2008
3:01 pm

... frequency, ... 70mph ... through ... Neill, I agree about the LA Red line. Does what is supposed to do - move passengers in a clean and efficient manner. I...
brakevan
Offline Send Email
Dec 5, 2008
8:58 pm

Hi, I "did" the existing Vancouver skyrail about 6 years ago. Back then the pooh fight was on about the airport line. Getting the winter olympics nailed it I...
Shane
shanepolle
Offline Send Email
Dec 6, 2008
8:42 am

Neil and fellow motorists I doubt there is anything in the law that allows a dispensation to cross when lights 'FAIL SAFE'. The District Police station is...
bwebber@...
Send Email
Dec 2, 2008
12:53 am

I've known the Wyberba (southern line) lvl x-ing lights stay flashing AFTER a bad storm. Clinton To: qrig@...: bwebber@...: Tue, 2...
Clinton Taylor
ctaylor71au
Offline Send Email
Dec 2, 2008
1:53 am

Its safer to stop and look, but agree its probably still 100% illegal and they could be fined. Regards Shane ... flashing AFTER a bad storm. ... Re: [qrig] Re:...
Shane
shanepolle
Offline Send Email
Dec 2, 2008
4:43 am

You're probably correct Brian, but the cops were presumably very busy elsewhere. I do not recall any light coming from any building in the vicinity, including...
Neil Crellin
neilcrellin
Offline Send Email
Dec 2, 2008
7:38 am

Hi Brian and all, What would we all do if we came upon a normal traffic light that stayed red for half an hour? My guess is we would have driven through it,...
Alan Jones
alantrains
Offline Send Email
Dec 2, 2008
10:04 am
 First  |  |  Next > Last 
Advanced

Copyright © 2009 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.
Privacy Policy - Terms of Service - Guidelines - Help