I just put up a new article, which I submit for the consideration of the experts: http://leansoftwareengineering.com/2008/09/21/options-have-value-options92; ...
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Olav Maassen
olavmaassen
Sep 22, 2008 7:03 am
HI Corey, Congratulations on being the first poster on this group. To be honest I don't think anyone of us is a real expert as the field is still very new. I...
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erwilleke
Sep 22, 2008 1:57 pm
Olav, I was getting a Real Options feel off of this approach when Corey first posted this multi-stage priority filter a few weeks ago. I pretty quickly...
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Olav Maassen
olavmaassen
Sep 22, 2008 2:11 pm
Hi Eric, ... So, to rephrase this in the way I currently understand this, the issue you are trying to solve is how to include relevant people in the ...
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Eric Willeke
erwilleke
Sep 22, 2008 3:04 pm
Getting the right people involved is a big part of it, but the deeper issue is getting it to where the right people have the possibility of awareness, since we...
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Olav Maassen
olavmaassen
Sep 22, 2008 3:28 pm
Ok, now it makes sense to me. Thanks for the elaborate explanation. From: real_options_discussion@yahoogroups.com ...
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Corey Ladas
corey_ladas
Sep 22, 2008 3:33 pm
... I ... new. ... with an ... please ... We want to correctly prioritize the work, in small increments, without having big planning meetings. We want to make...
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Olav Maassen
olavmaassen
Sep 22, 2008 3:55 pm
... right ... board. ... events that happen in the production system. It's a > pull system. Work is started, which creates space in pri1, which creates space...
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Corey Ladas
corey_ladas
Sep 22, 2008 4:19 pm
... the ... create a ... Work is ... which ... card ... does ... that ... more ... production, ... The only rule that should be enforced is the buffer size...
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Chris Matts
chrismatts1968
Sep 23, 2008 9:55 pm
Corey What is the problem that you are trying to solve? My concern after reading the article is that Kanban, which is an excellent software delivery mechanism,...
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Corey Ladas
corey_ladas
Sep 23, 2008 10:10 pm
Prioritization is hard, people are bad at it, and most of the existing solutions are wasteful, expensive, and ineffective. We need a prioritization mechanism...
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Chris Matts
chrismatts1968
Sep 23, 2008 10:27 pm
What type of prioritisation are you talking about? Current items to feed the kanban system or Predictive prioritisation ( Guessing the future )? ... -- Regards...
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Corey Ladas
corey_ladas
Sep 23, 2008 10:37 pm
Current items to feed the kanban system. What value is added by predictive prioritization?...
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Chris Matts
chrismatts1968
Sep 23, 2008 10:52 pm
Current items to feed the kanban system. What value is added by predictive prioritization? ..............Exactly. So what information do you need to feed the...
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Corey Ladas
corey_ladas
Sep 23, 2008 10:57 pm
I need to know the one thing that is worth doing next....
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Chris Matts
chrismatts1968
Sep 23, 2008 10:59 pm
So how do you determine that?...
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Chris Matts
chrismatts1968
Sep 23, 2008 11:05 pm
Or rather..... What information do you need, and what information can you get? ... -- Regards Chris Matts...
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Corey Ladas
corey_ladas
Sep 23, 2008 11:05 pm
by comparing the candidates for selection BUT comparisons are not free...
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Chris Matts
chrismatts1968
Sep 23, 2008 11:13 pm
How do you compare candidates? What information do you need? Why are comparisons not free? ( Gotta go to bed now, will continue in the morning ) And...
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David J. Anderson
netherby_uk
Sep 24, 2008 3:52 am
You need to know the cost of delay function for each item to be compared. David Anderson President, Modus Cooperandi Management Consulting for Knowledge...
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Chris Matts
chrismatts1968
Sep 24, 2008 6:37 am
David Perhaps you could expand on what you mean by "cost of delay function". Thank you Chris On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:52 AM, David J. Anderson ... -- Regards ...
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David J. Anderson
netherby_uk
Sep 24, 2008 6:54 am
The graph of the cost incurred or revenue foregone of late delivery. For example, if a feature is needed operational October 1st or there will be a government...
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Corey Ladas
corey_ladas
Sep 24, 2008 7:37 am
Factors to consider: age of the request the time needed to complete the item availability of resources needed to complete the item dependencies on other items...
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chris.matts@...
chrismatts1968
Sep 24, 2008 8:23 am
Doing this from blackberry so apologise for formatting and briefness. This deserves a longer answer. Corey, Love the list. It is a great start. One thing most...
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Corey Ladas
corey_ladas
Sep 24, 2008 3:52 pm
Okay, interesting that you mention Todd Little, because the priority buffers are meant to be a representation of a Cone of Uncertainty. I could comment on the...
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chris.matts@...
chrismatts1968
Sep 24, 2008 4:16 pm
Trust me, we are about to ditch pretty much all that stuff. We will be left with "how long to implement given x or y or z developers."........ But that is...
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Pollyanna Pixton
pollyannapixton
Sep 24, 2008 4:47 pm
We at Accelinnova (Me, Todd, Niel and Kent) have been working on the concept that business value is a conversation around the building of a BV model that has...
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Olav Maassen
olavmaassen
Sep 24, 2008 5:54 pm
Interesting quote from Edward de Bono I've found In one of his books: Often a decision is the result of the incapacity of finding enough alternatives (my...
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Corey Ladas
corey_ladas
Sep 24, 2008 9:26 pm
... left with "how long to implement given x or y or z developers."........ But that is jumping to the punch line. Let's work through it. ... scheduling ... ...
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Chris Matts
chrismatts1968
Sep 25, 2008 6:45 am
... My point is that the person raising the request about the bug cares about the bug.... but not how long it has been outstanding. The relative merits of the...