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Re: [syndic8] Re: NewsIsFree.com changes.xml file?

At 02:14 PM 12/19/2001, you wrote:
>Wow.
>
>Talk about a mind bomb.
>
>I've gotta figure out a way to use this.

I want to know why the major news search engines
(RocketNews, FAST, Northern Light, Yahoo Daily,
Moreover-Via-AltaVista) don't use changes.xml files if
they're available. Yahoo has an excuse because they
keep all their content on their sites (which allows for
deep if not wide searching), and Moreover-via-
AltaVista does do RSS scraping but they're picky
about what they accept.

But what about FAST and RocketNews and Northern
Light? Hell, Excite could rebuild their news search
based on RSS files if they wanted to (Excite NewsTracker
is dead, unfortunately -- news searches on Excite are
now handled by Dogpile Newscrawler.)

Tara


Tara Calishain / tara@...
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Wed Dec 19, 2001 7:29 pm

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... Hash: SHA1 Hey. Just a suggestions. When I want to look at a feed with the XML icon why not change the URL to view-source:http://www.cnn.com Does this... 		burton@...
kevinallenbu...
Offline Send Email 		Dec 18, 2001
11:38 pm

... If you mean does this work in IE: <A href="view-source:http://www.cnn.com">Show source</a> Yes it does. Fires up whatever you've got config'd for the...
wkearney99
Offline Send Email 		Dec 19, 2001
1:19 am

... Hash: SHA1 ... <snip> You know that little icon that says "XML"? That should be a view-source icon. This is what we are doing for Reptile. Kevin - -- ...
burton@...
kevinallenbu...
Offline Send Email 		Dec 19, 2001
2:10 am

... So you're suggesting that we take the XML icon and make it deliberately open a text reader? So instead of keeping the user in their familiar browser you'd...
wkearney99
Offline Send Email 		Dec 19, 2001
2:39 am

... Hash: SHA1 ... Well. In Mozilla this looks much better under a view-source URL. I do realize that an IE user could take this perspective, especially...
burton@...
kevinallenbu...
Offline Send Email 		Dec 19, 2001
8:43 am

Hey Hey Hey, Is Mike Krus out there? I understand from Daypop that he's doing a changes.xml file which Daypop is using to grab new headline files. Anyone know...
Tara Calishain
calumet@...
Send Email 		Dec 19, 2001
5:26 pm

In article <5.1.0.14.2.20011219122730.02498090@...>, Tara Calishain <calumet@...> writes ... You probably mean ...
Julian Bond
jbond23uk
Offline Send Email 		Dec 19, 2001
6:00 pm

... NO. I mean NewsIsFree. See: http://www.danchan.com/weblog/daypop/6224...
Tara Calishain
calumet@...
Send Email 		Dec 19, 2001
6:03 pm

Hi there, ... I'm here ;-) See: http://www.newsisfree.com/sources/changes/ for an HTML rendering and: http://www.newsisfree.com/HPE/xml/changes.xml for the XML...
mwkrus
Offline Send Email 		Dec 19, 2001
7:05 pm

... Thanks Mike. Google sent me an announcement that they're now offering a news page on their site. I asked them, "Why aren't you using the changes.xml feed...
Tara Calishain
calumet@...
Send Email 		Dec 19, 2001
7:09 pm

... I want to know why the major news search engines (RocketNews, FAST, Northern Light, Yahoo Daily, Moreover-Via-AltaVista) don't use changes.xml files if ...
Tara Calishain
calumet@...
Send Email 		Dec 19, 2001
7:27 pm

In article <163201c188c1$6f8e31a0$33a1dc40@murphy>, Dave Winer <dave@...> writes ... I've been pondering the implications here between the centralized...
Julian Bond
jbond23uk
Offline Send Email 		Dec 20, 2001
10:11 am

... Shouldn't a client only register with a cloud for callbacks if it can receive them? Shouldn't a firewalled machine avoid using a cloud since it can't...
wkearney99
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12:11 pm

In article <9vski1+v236@eGroups.com>, wkearney99 <wkearney99@...> writes ... Of course. But this situation makes callbacks impossible, hence the need ...
Julian Bond
jbond23uk
Offline Send Email 		Dec 20, 2001
12:35 pm

... Right, on this we agree. How the clarity of this has escaped others mystifies me. -Bill Kearney...
wkearney99
Offline Send Email 		Dec 20, 2001
3:10 pm

Hi, ... I don't think the changes.xml file should contain the urls to the rss files. That file is read very often, it should be kept as small as possible. I...
Mike Krus
mwkrus
Offline Send Email 		Dec 20, 2001
10:50 am

Hi, ... I don't! changes.xml is NOT a place to discover new RSS files. It can be used outside the context of RSS. I think syndic8 is the perfect tool to find...
Mike Krus
mwkrus
Offline Send Email 		Dec 20, 2001
4:33 pm

... In theory, is that not what the weblogs.com RSS "community" is for? (The operative words being "in theory," since that there's nothing there right now.) ...
Mark Paschal
markfoxie
Offline Send Email 		Dec 20, 2001
9:29 pm

In article <87pu5cdkou.fsf@...>, burton@... writes ... This cannot be right, can it? the most common use of this icon at the moment, is...
Julian Bond
jbond23uk
Offline Send Email 		Dec 19, 2001
8:58 am

... Hash: SHA1 ... Ah... no. I just think it is an accepted convention. AKA a de facto standard. Every major browser seems to support it. ... Nah. Everyone...
burton@...
kevinallenbu...
Offline Send Email 		Dec 19, 2001
9:19 pm

It works under IE, but it simple opens the default source viewer application. IE's default is notepad. James ... From: <burton@...> To:...
James Lindën
kodekrash
Online Now Send Email 		Dec 19, 2001
1:43 am

The XML tab of the Syndic8 feedinfo page has a link called "Download XML". It is available only to logged-in users (because I don't want to be a redistribution...
Jeff Barr
jeffbarr_2000
Offline Send Email 		Dec 19, 2001
9:06 am

... Hash: SHA1 ... Yeah. Mozilla *really* needs to do something different for text/xml content :( ... hm. Works fine here. What version of mozilla? I think...
burton@...
kevinallenbu...
Offline Send Email 		Dec 19, 2001
9:21 pm

Kevin may deserve some vindication here. That view-source URL handler is actually mentioned: http://www.w3.org/Addressing/schemes.html It appears to be...
wkearney99
Offline Send Email 		Dec 27, 2001
12:13 am
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