I'm using PHP Sessions. I'll look into doing something better soon,
like dropping a long-term cookie on your machine.

Right now I am working on RSS parsing and site polling. Should
have this going pretty soon.

Jeff;

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Kearney [mailto:wkearney99@...]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 6:35 AM
To: syndic8@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [syndic8] Login for syndic8 site?


Jeff,

What's with the timeout for logins to the syndic8 site?  I'm finding
that's it not keeping me logged in, nor is it allowing me to keep a
local password.

Any solution?

-Bill Kearney



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Jeff,

What's with the timeout for logins to the syndic8 site?  I'm finding
that's it not keeping me logged in, nor is it allowing me to keep a
local password.

Any solution?

-Bill Kearney

In article <9odkh5+e2at@eGroups.com>, wkearney99@... writes
>I'm in favor of some kind of category namespace for each
>site.  If they want to use someone else's then fine, reference it's
>URL and go forward.  Elsewise, create and maintain your own.  Much
>like DNS, you'll want to integrate a serial number of sorts to help
>keep track of changes.  It would be great to just start somewhere by
>publishing an XML document containing categories.
>
>Let's see where it goes.
>
>This is, perhaps, not the right list for this as it's not strictly
>related to syndic8 matters.  I'm open to suggestion for other forums.

A de-centralized category system. So the de-central list. Except that
we've had some brief discussion there and it didn't go anywhere except
to say "it's hard".

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> It's quite tempting to put a limit on it and try to come up with a
cut
> down list. Something like 3 layers of 5 entries each (125 total?).
>
> As for categorising, I think this can be done over time by all of
us.
> Every time you look at it's feed, check it's category.

Every time you check, that's exactly my point.  Or at least put
something on it to start with and possibly add more as it goes
along.  I'm in favor of some kind of category namespace for each
site.  If they want to use someone else's then fine, reference it's
URL and go forward.  Elsewise, create and maintain your own.  Much
like DNS, you'll want to integrate a serial number of sorts to help
keep track of changes.  It would be great to just start somewhere by
publishing an XML document containing categories.

Let's see where it goes.

This is, perhaps, not the right list for this as it's not strictly
related to syndic8 matters.  I'm open to suggestion for other forums.

-Bill Kearney

In article <9od9sf+9249@eGroups.com>, Bill Kearney
<wkearney99@...> writes
>--- In syndic8@y..., "Jeff Barr" <jeff@v...> wrote:
>> Great observation. I think we will have to have a role of
>> "Categorizer". This kind of person will assign and organize
>> the feeds.
>
>[...nervously taking two steps back...]

Indeed. And before you can categorise, you have to have a category
hierarchy. I've never found one that didn't grow like topsy and rapidly
slip out of control. It's tempting to just use DMOZ, but have you seen
how big it is? Another option might be to use Moreover's category list.

It's quite tempting to put a limit on it and try to come up with a cut
down list. Something like 3 layers of 5 entries each (125 total?).

As for categorising, I think this can be done over time by all of us.
Every time you look at it's feed, check it's category.

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--- In syndic8@y..., "Jeff Barr" <jeff@v...> wrote:
> Great observation. I think we will have to have a role of
> "Categorizer". This kind of person will assign and organize
> the feeds.

[...nervously taking two steps back...]

Oy, this will be a job.  Some of the stuff is just all over the
graph.  While there are some feeds dedicated to certain categories,
many cover quite a few.

Here's an idea.  What about getting the categories from the items
themselves?  If the items had categories attached they could be
scanned.  I realize this is not the reality on the ground today.

But if we simply build up a list of categories on the feed items and
make that searchable we'd be in business.

What would it take to get the various feeds to start adding
categorization data to their individual items?

-Bill Kearney

Cool idea. We do need a logo graphic and a button.

Jeff;

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Kearney [mailto:wkearney99@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 10:36 AM
To: syndic8@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [syndic8] Re: How will it be used?


> This because so often
> sites do produce a feed they just don't advertise it.

I've seen this too.  It would be SO helpful if whoever's in charge of
their web site search engine would put in a page for RSS.  Or at
least the words syndicated newsfeed.

Maybe it's time for a button or bug for web sites that says something
like "Proud member of Syndic8" with a link back to an evangelism page?

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> This because so often
> sites do produce a feed they just don't advertise it.

I've seen this too.  It would be SO helpful if whoever's in charge of
their web site search engine would put in a page for RSS.  Or at
least the words syndicated newsfeed.

Maybe it's time for a button or bug for web sites that says something
like "Proud member of Syndic8" with a link back to an evangelism page?

-Bill

Great observation. I think we will have to have a role of
"Categorizer". This kind of person will assign and organize
the feeds.

Jeff;

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Krus [mailto:mkrus@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 9:39 AM
To: syndic8@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [syndic8] Google PHP-Nuke search


Hi,

one comment: if you start entering that many feeds in the system
you are very very soon going to run into a problem of information
overload: how are we going to make sense of all this? do we
add category information? I know user will be able to add their
own fields but it seems like a good idea to build a common taxonomy
which could help browse through so many feeds...
Of course, other things will help dig through the load, like
update frequency, a rating system, ...
Mike

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In article <3BAA1BA5.4090407@...>, Mike Krus
<mkrus@...> writes
>one comment: if you start entering that many feeds in the system
>you are very very soon going to run into a problem of information
>overload: how are we going to make sense of all this?

Maybe it needs a few use cases for the users of the data rather than the
team building it.

For myself I can imagine using it as a reference. I find a site, I check
Syndic8 to see if a feed is already available. This because so often
sites do produce a feed they just don't advertise it.

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> do we add category information? I know user will be able to
> add their own fields but it seems like a good idea to build
> a common taxonomy which could help browse through so many feeds...

Yes!  This issue was raised on the now defunct (seemingly) RSS 0.93
mailing list.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/reallySimpleSyndication

It would be tremendously helpful for there to be a categorization
exchange of some sort.  The ability for me to share categories with
other generators of material would be very helpful.

I'm not sure this is the place to have this discussion.  But if the
syndic8 site starts providing a downloadable XML file of it's
categories maybe it could start something...

-Bill Kearney

Bill Kearney wrote:
> I suppose this raises the question of whether anyone cares about
> something being a scraped site or not.  I would prefer to use the
> actual site if it provides a feed.
Well I too would prefer that you do, keeps my server load down ;-)

> Scraped sites that almagamate several topics are generally rather
> annoying.  They tend to have serious repeats of material found in
> other feeds.
I guess it depends what you do with the feeds. Moreover seems to
do extremely well building custom news feeds!


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Hi,

one comment: if you start entering that many feeds in the system
you are very very soon going to run into a problem of information
overload: how are we going to make sense of all this? do we
add category information? I know user will be able to add their
own fields but it seems like a good idea to build a common taxonomy
which could help browse through so many feeds...
Of course, other things will help dig through the load, like
update frequency, a rating system, ...
Mike

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> This is a bit more complex. There are now some "native" feeds coming
> from NewsIsFree, such as
http://www.newsisfree.com/HPE/xml/taliban.xml

I suppose this raises the question of whether anyone cares about
something being a scraped site or not.  I would prefer to use the
actual site if it provides a feed.  If not then I'll use the scraped
one provided it scrapes just the site of interest.

There's the hassle of knowing when the original site starts producing
their own so that I can stop using the scraped site.

In addition, the effort to include a scraped site that gets cut off
is annoying.  Much like the scraped NYTimes feeds that were asked to
cease.

Scraped sites that almagamate several topics are generally rather
annoying.  They tend to have serious repeats of material found in
other feeds.  News overload, so to speak.

This is a pretty great situation to be in, though.  Too much news
from too many sources?  Not a bad place to be!

I'm tremendously grateful to folks like Jeff and Mike (and others)
that put forth the effort to organize all this while also explaining
it.  The explanations go a long way toward evangelizing this concept.

Thanks folks!
-Bill Kearney

Jeff Barr wrote:
> Julian> Regarding Newsisfree data, would it be possible to split it
> Julian> into two OCS files? One for known rss, the other for scraped?
> Julian> The first one ough to go into syndic8 now.
> Jeff> This can already be determined from the OCS since the URL for
> scraped
> Jeff> content goes to the newsisfree domain.
> This is a bit more complex. There are now some "native" feeds coming
> from NewsIsFree, such as http://www.newsisfree.com/HPE/xml/taliban.xml
but those are not in our service list, and they'll probably move

I can easily write a separate file containing non-NIF generated
links, I used to do it and no one seemed interested...

Mike

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I said,

Julian> Regarding Newsisfree data, would it be possible to split it
Julian> into two OCS files? One for known rss, the other for scraped?
Julian> The first one ough to go into syndic8 now.

Jeff> This can already be determined from the OCS since the URL for
scraped
Jeff> content goes to the newsisfree domain.

This is a bit more complex. There are now some "native" feeds coming
from NewsIsFree, such as http://www.newsisfree.com/HPE/xml/taliban.xml

Jeff;

-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Bond [mailto:julian_bond@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 1:35 AM
To: syndic8@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [syndic8] Google PHP-Nuke search


I thought I'd do a scan for PHP-Nuke sites as they all produce RSS. I
started at the Top100 but the page format was awkward to use. So then I
tried Google.

Http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=100&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=bac
kend.php&as_qdr=all&as_occt=url&as_dt=i

About 2150 entries. A quick scan down the first 1000 suggests that it's
all RSS. Wow!

Hmmm? What to do with this? I could probably extract the URLs pretty
easily and turn it into a text file of unique entries. Would this be
useful to Syndic8?

Now the number of entries in Syndic8 is around 1000, it badly needs a
search page.

Regarding Newsisfree data, would it be possible to split it into two OCS
files? One for known rss, the other for scraped? The first one ought to
go into syndic8 now.

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Blogdex has 12000 sites on their spider.

There are, what is it? 100K? Blogger users?

Blogger doesn't produce rss.

So who's got a line to Evan Williams ear?

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In article <000d01c141e1$668cb8f0$070d0dc0@monster>, Jeff Barr
<jeff@...> writes
>Yes, there are a ton of good sites there. There are also lots of
>sites that started with good intentions, but which never generated
>much of a news flow. So I think that our review process will help
>us to get some value out of these sites.

I tried limiting Google to only pages updated in the last year, but this
only returned 41. And sites like geeknews were missing when they are
definitely active.

So there's somewhere between 41 and 2150 active nuke sites. Hmmm.

>There is also a splinter group, called PostNuke.

Postnuke also does rss at /backend.php so they're included in the
search.

>If you run out of sites, you can also search for "backend.php3".

Only another 172...

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Mike is correct - there will be a page of info for each feed.
I am going to store a little bit of headline history to allow
the reviewer to make a good judgement. All coming soon!

BTW - we now have 90 registered users and suggestions for 220
new feeds. This is awesome!

Jeff;

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Krus [mailto:mkrus@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 8:08 AM
To: syndic8@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [syndic8] Freshness column in feed list?


Bill Kearney wrote:
> I suppose this leads to the question of something being alive but not
> actually changing it's data.  Maybe two columns then?  One
> for 'IsAlive' and the other for 'LastChanged'?  I suspect LastChanged
> is going to be more difficult in that it would require the feed
> system to keep a copy or some kind of checksum of the last feed for
> comparison.
an md5 encoding of the content would catch most changes I think...
But I aggree both columns would be useful.
When the entire workflow is developped, I guess there'll be
a source information page for each feed, which can display that
kind of information...

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Yes, there are a ton of good sites there. There are also lots of
sites that started with good intentions, but which never generated
much of a news flow. So I think that our review process will help
us to get some value out of these sites.

There is also a splinter group, called PostNuke. They took offense
at the development policies of the Nuke group. Their product also
produces backend files. You can find announcements from each group
at:

	 http://www.phpnuke.org/categories.php?op=newindex&catid=2
	 http://www.postnuke.com/

Note that the acronymn "YANS" means Yet Another Nuke Site".

If you run out of sites, you can also search for "backend.php3".

> Hmmm? What to do with this? I could probably extract the URLs pretty
> easily and turn it into a text file of unique entries. Would this be
> useful to Syndic8?

I can certainly come up with a way to import lists like this. But I
want to get the review process going first.

> Now the number of entries in Syndic8 is around 1000, it badly needs a
> search page.

I agree. I did add an "A-Z" navigation bar yesterday. It is active
when the list is sorted by Site Name. We will have lots of bells and
whistles just as soon as I can write them all!

> Regarding Newsisfree data, would it be possible to split it into two
OCS
> files? One for known rss, the other for scraped? The first one ought
to
> go into syndic8 now.

This can already be determined from the OCS since the URL for scraped
content goes to the newsisfree domain.

Jeff;

-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Bond [mailto:julian_bond@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 1:35 AM
To: syndic8@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [syndic8] Google PHP-Nuke search


I thought I'd do a scan for PHP-Nuke sites as they all produce RSS. I
started at the Top100 but the page format was awkward to use. So then I
tried Google.

Http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=100&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=bac
kend.php&as_qdr=all&as_occt=url&as_dt=i

About 2150 entries. A quick scan down the first 1000 suggests that it's
all RSS. Wow!

Hmmm? What to do with this? I could probably extract the URLs pretty
easily and turn it into a text file of unique entries. Would this be
useful to Syndic8?

Now the number of entries in Syndic8 is around 1000, it badly needs a
search page.

Regarding Newsisfree data, would it be possible to split it into two OCS
files? One for known rss, the other for scraped? The first one ought to
go into syndic8 now.

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I thought I'd do a scan for PHP-Nuke sites as they all produce RSS. I
started at the Top100 but the page format was awkward to use. So then I
tried Google.

Http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=100&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=bac
kend.php&as_qdr=all&as_occt=url&as_dt=i

About 2150 entries. A quick scan down the first 1000 suggests that it's
all RSS. Wow!

Hmmm? What to do with this? I could probably extract the URLs pretty
easily and turn it into a text file of unique entries. Would this be
useful to Syndic8?

Now the number of entries in Syndic8 is around 1000, it badly needs a
search page.

Regarding Newsisfree data, would it be possible to split it into two OCS
files? One for known rss, the other for scraped? The first one ought to
go into syndic8 now.

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I've just gone back and looked at all the slashcode sites. I've added
all the ones in http://slashcode.com/sites.pl?content_type=ocs

Especially interesting is http://newsglut.com and
http://newsglut.com/sites.pl?content_type=ocs

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A way of handing Syndic8.com an OCS file would be handy.
And a lot quicker than cutnpasting entries individually.

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> well, I would certainly want to see them there sometime.
> However, terms of service apply to our feeds (as to moreover's)
> and I'd like to advocacy page to have a section about that.
> Using other peoples content and services comes with certain
> responsibilities and I think we should also work on that
> (not just on getting the publishers to share their content).

This is a good point.  I'm glad it's come up.  ISTM that we should
confirm that scraped sites are being collected with the knowlege
and/or approval of the source site.  I'd hate to see some site get
upset about being scraped and start threatening lawsuits.

Something on the evagelism pages could cover it.  Perhaps from
several points of view.  One being the site not having to do anything
to spread their news.  Another being the site needs to have people
visit it for the rest of the article in order to satisfy web hits.

-Bill Kearney

Bill asks:

> A way to see the list sorted by URL might also be useful.  This way
> one could look at the list and see if there's already a feed with
> parameters in different order.

You can click on the "Feed URL" column header to sort by the URL.
The URL is available as a tooltip on the XML icon (its the icon's
ALT text).

Scraped sites will be flagged as such in the database. There will
be a way to retrieve an XML feed and to see this.

> Or am I missing something that says scraped sites are a good thing?

They are great. It may take a while to convince some sites to
syndicate. The work done to scrape is quite important. We should
be able to come up with some good statistics from those feeds
as a vehicle to convince the site to syndicate.

Jeff;

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Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 8:00 AM
To: syndic8@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [syndic8] Re: [syndication] Syndic8.com is now accepting site
submissions...


> The suggest page will actually check to see if the feed is
> already known; you don't have to do this yourself.

A way to see the list sorted by URL might also be useful.  This way
one could look at the list and see if there's already a feed with
parameters in different order.

> I would like to see the scraped sites listed. I can
> do a one-time import of the entire NewsIsFree list sometime
> soon if you would like.

Can we somehow mark the scraped sites as such?  It would be nice to
be able to tell what's coming directly from the source and what's
scraped.  The point being to focus efforts on getting the scraped
folks to begin creating their own feeds.

Or am I missing something that says scraped sites are a good thing?

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Bill Kearney wrote:
> I suppose this leads to the question of something being alive but not
> actually changing it's data.  Maybe two columns then?  One
> for 'IsAlive' and the other for 'LastChanged'?  I suspect LastChanged
> is going to be more difficult in that it would require the feed
> system to keep a copy or some kind of checksum of the last feed for
> comparison.
an md5 encoding of the content would catch most changes I think...
But I aggree both columns would be useful.
When the entire workflow is developped, I guess there'll be
a source information page for each feed, which can display that
kind of information...

Mike

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hi again,

Jeff Barr wrote:
> The suggest page will actually check to see if the feed is
> already known; you don't have to do this yourself.
yeah, but my ego doesn't like getting those warning messages ;-)

> I would like to see the scraped sites listed. I can
> do a one-time import of the entire NewsIsFree list sometime
> soon if you would like.
well, I would certainly want to see them there sometime.
However, terms of service apply to our feeds (as to moreover's)
and I'd like to advocacy page to have a section about that.
Using other peoples content and services comes with certain
responsibilities and I think we should also work on that
(not just on getting the publishers to share their content).

But other than that, I have no reservations about you adding
the scrapped feeds produced by NewsIsFree to the list.


Mike

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Hi all,

How about a 'last checked' column in the feeds list?  Something that
verified the feed as still providing material.

I suppose this leads to the question of something being alive but not
actually changing it's data.  Maybe two columns then?  One
for 'IsAlive' and the other for 'LastChanged'?  I suspect LastChanged
is going to be more difficult in that it would require the feed
system to keep a copy or some kind of checksum of the last feed for
comparison.

Just a suggestion.

Thanks,
Bill Kearney

> The suggest page will actually check to see if the feed is
> already known; you don't have to do this yourself.

A way to see the list sorted by URL might also be useful.  This way
one could look at the list and see if there's already a feed with
parameters in different order.

> I would like to see the scraped sites listed. I can
> do a one-time import of the entire NewsIsFree list sometime
> soon if you would like.

Can we somehow mark the scraped sites as such?  It would be nice to
be able to tell what's coming directly from the source and what's
scraped.  The point being to focus efforts on getting the scraped
folks to begin creating their own feeds.

Or am I missing something that says scraped sites are a good thing?

-Bill Kearney

Mike says:

> Maybe we need a mailing list just for Syndic8 users to discuss
> these issues (like I'm not subscribing to enough mailing lists
> as it is :-))

One of our users already thought of this and was kind enough to
create the group for us at Yahoo. Let's move our discussion
over to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syndic8.

> A few things that would be nice:
> - list feeds by name (a page with all feeds starting with A)
> - in the current list, direct access to page N (show list
>   of page number at the bottom, so we can jump to page n)
> - search by name

I will get to the first one or two really soon.

> I've been submitting feeds this morning and finding out
> what is already there is time consuming...

The suggest page will actually check to see if the feed is
already known; you don't have to do this yourself.

> Also, I'd like you oponion about submitting NewsIsFree
> generated feeds (for scrapped sites):

I would like to see the scraped sites listed. I can
do a one-time import of the entire NewsIsFree list sometime
soon if you would like.

Jeff;

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Krus [mailto:mkrus@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 7:04 AM
To: syndication@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [syndication] Syndic8.com is now accepting site
submissions...


Jeff Barr wrote:
> BTW, we already have 88 feed submissions from 6 different users.
> Not bad for 12 hours!
very good!

A few things that would be nice:
- list feeds by name (a page with all feeds starting with A)
- in the current list, direct access to page N (show list
    of page number at the bottom, so we can jump to page n)
- search by name

I've been submitting feeds this morning and finding out
what is already there is time consuming...


Also, I'd like you oponion about submitting NewsIsFree
generated feeds (for scrapped sites):
I chose not to submit any now, I'll just add it on a
case by case basis when a source is submitted and that
users request it be scrapped.
But you could also decide add them all and change the status
from Scrapped to Officialy-Syndicated when/if an official feed
because available.


Maybe we need a mailing list just for Syndic8 users to discuss
these issues (like I'm not subscribing to enough mailing lists
as it is :-))

Mike
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