ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, March 17 Two men walked into a Protestant church
close to the American Embassy this morning, in one of the most
guarded areas in one of the most secure cities in Pakistan, and threw
several grenades. Five people were killed, including an embassy
employee and her daughter, a high school senior.

At least 40 people were wounded, many critically, most of them
foreigners.

The blasts sundered bodies of worshipers and sent blood flying across
the simple hall where the worshipers were listening to the sermon,
having just finished singing "This Is Holy Ground." After the
outburst, a man's black loafer lay by the long table where white
coffee cups were arranged for the post-service congregants....

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nyt
/20020318/wl_nyt/2_americans_killed_in_attack_on_church_in_pakistan

You never know when these 'laws' can become handy... LOL!


"The Laws Of Living..."

"The Law of Reality"
Never get into fights with ugly people, they
have nothing to lose.

"The Law of Self Sacrifice"
When you starve with a tiger, the tiger
starves last.

"The Law of Motivation"
Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster.

"Boob's Law"
You always find something in the last place
you look.

"Weiler's Law"
Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't
have to do it himself.

"Law of Probable Dispersal"
Whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.

"Law of Volunteer Labor"
People are always available for work in the past
tense.

"Conway's Law"
In any organization there is one person who
knows what is going on. That person must
be fired.

"Iron Law of Distribution"
Them that has, gets.

"Law of Cybernetic Entomology"
There is always one more bug.

"Law of Drunkenness"
You can't fall off the floor.

"Heller's Law"
The first myth of management is that it exists.

"Osborne's Law"
Variables won't; constants aren't.

"Main's Law"
For every action there is an equal and opposite
government program.

"Weinberg's Second Law"
If builders built buildings the way programmers
wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that
came along would have destroyed civilization.

"The Law of Volunteering"
If you dance with a grizzly bear, you had better
let him lead.

"The Law of Avoiding Oversell"
When putting cheese in a mousetrap, always
leave room for the mouse.

"The Law of Common Sense"
Never accept a drink from a urologist.


ROTFL!




Been rainin' here for 3 days.. Goodness!....still looks like we are
gonna get more today..Ole Arkie River's belly was swellin' good as I
crossed over it Saturday!...Ya could almost drown in one of them
potholes on my road to the house... LOL... My ole provider was
drowned out late friday nite too..I guess them ole wires was
misfirin' from all the water retension!.... LOL...  I was without
service till late last nite.. This rain will just bring on spring
faster!.. Yeah boy... Headed to my ole mountains end of this month..
It should be awesome!  Got that cabin of mine reserved for April
too.. Just lots of trail hikin', sunrise and sunset porch swingin',
and horseback ridin' for this ole gal... and a good show too.. Amber
has never seen the Mountain Home Jamboree.. Its a great puton show..
I love it when they play that cajun music... best foot stompin' music
for sure...!!.. And the comedy skits are a riot!..


Have a great day everyone!

Y'all know I am!


Bars

I see now... I can use any of my monikers.. As long as I log em in to
the Yahoo Group!...

COOL!... I have never retired any of mine... LOL!

That means ole Madbanker47 can post here too.


Anyone can post now... Only members have access to the
extras...pichers, files, members names..!



And since this moniker is NOT a member it gives this warning at the
top of the post!....


<Warning: Your email address will be displayed in the message you
send.>

WooHoo.... a signature trail!...guess for them retards that abuse a
club!... 'fore long I look to see ole Yahooie have the ability to K-
line someone by their personal isp....!  In chat, ya can be blocked
from loggin' onto any server when reported for bein' abusive!.. Now
that is some heavy stuff there...



Bars

Empty chair

A man's daughter had asked the local minister to come and pray with
her father. When the minister arrived, he found the man lying in bed
with his head propped up on two pillows. An empty chair sat beside
his bed. The minister assumed that the old fellow had been informed
of his visit.

"I guess you were expecting me," he said. "No, who are you?" said the
father. The minister told him his name and then remarked, "I see the
empty chair; I figured you knew I was going to show up." "Oh yeah,
the chair," said the bedridden man. "Would you mind closing the
door?" Puzzled, the minister shut the door. "I have never told anyone
this, not even my daughter," said the man. "But all of my life I have
never known how to pray. At church I used to hear the pastor talk
about prayer, but it went right over my head." "I abandoned any
attempt at prayer," the old man continued, "until one day four years
ago my best friend said to me, "Johnny, prayer is just a simple
matter of having a conversation with Jesus. Here is what I
suggest." "Sit down in a chair; place an empty chair in front of you,
and in faith see Jesus on the chair. It's not spooky because he
promised, 'I'll be with you always ". "Then just speak to him in the
same way you're being with me right now." "So, I tried it and I've
liked it so much that I do it a couple of hours every day. I'm
careful though. If my daughter saw me talking to an empty chair,
she'd either have a nervous breakdown or send me off to the funny
farm."

The minister was deeply moved by the story and encouraged the old man
to continue on the journey. Then he prayed with him, anointed him
with oil, and returned to the church. Two nights later the daughter
called to tell the minister that her daddy had died that
afternoon. "Did he die in peace?" he asked.

"Yes, when I left the house about two o'clock, he called me over to
his bedside, told me he loved me and kissed me on the cheek. When I
got back from the store an hour later, I found him dead. But there
was something strange about his death. Apparently, just before Daddy
died, he leaned over and rested his head on the chair beside the bed.
What do you make of that?

The minister wiped a tear from his eye and said, "I wish we could all
go like that."





Bars

Address by Senator Jesse Helms
Chairman, U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
before
The United Nations Security Council
January 20, 2000
http://www.sovereignty.net/center/helms.htm

Interesting themes... Also interesting how bad this UN tax would be..In letting
UN have it's own independant source of funding..We will lose all control over
and acountabliity(meagre as it is) from this rogue institution

Gold gleams again

DONALD COXE

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Twenty-two years ago the world went mad for gold, with the price
reaching US$875 an ounce. That was the top of a Triple Waterfall chart
pattern (the kind Nasdaq experienced from 1998 until now -- huge rise,
crash, partial rally, deeper drop, partial rally, deepest drop), which
launched a bear market that finally reached bottom in 1999.

Recently, gold and gold stocks have been acting better. Gold stocks
are now a trivial percentage of the Standard & Poor's 500, and the
total market capitalization of all the publicly traded gold mining
stocks in the world is less than the value of either of the colas --
Coke or Pepsi. Yet even a modest run-up in the price of bullion and
stocks produces a flood of phone calls and e-mails asking me whether
this is the beginning of a major move. Is gold headed to $500, and if
so, how soon?

The investment world is divided into four groups: those who think gold
is irrelevant; those who think gold is a lousy investment, but worth
watching as a sign of inflation; those who think gold can be a great
investment when the time is right, but who for years believed the time
was wrong; and those who think gold is the only truly safe investment
and a new Golden Age will return.

I'd guess that one-third are in Group 1; 50 per cent are in Group 2;
15 per cent in Group 3, and roughly two per cent are gold bugs of
varying persuasions and intensities. Within that group is a tiny
minority of paranoid people who are, fortunately, quite harmless
(except to the financial health of those who have followed their
investment advice). They believe in global plots to drive down gold
prices, with the co-conspirators being governments, central banks and
even some investment banks. (Since these people regard governments and
central banks as incompetent, it is odd that they ascribe to them such
strategic vision, discipline, co-operation, sustained secrecy,
efficiency and effectiveness.)

In the interests of full disclosure, I am in Camp No. 3. I consider
gold a great investment when I think inflation will be worse than the
consensus expects, and a poor investment most other times.

Except when inflation turns to deflation. Gold is a store of value,
not just a hedge against inflation. Since most of us have only known
inflation, we have looked on gold as a single-purpose investment
vehicle. It's a foul-weather friend -- flood or drought.

The last wave of global deflation hit after the Crash of 1929. Gold
and gold mining shares were the pre-eminent investments of that era,
performing even better than long-term treasury bonds. The most recent
experience has been in Japan, and gold has been a great investment for
the Japanese. (Gold is denominated in U.S. dollars and the yen is
weak; their stock market has done terribly, their bonds pay less than
two per cent and deposits in their shaky banks pay virtually zero.)

Deflation is great news for consumers. Who doesn't like watching
prices fall on the things one buys? However, it is bad news for
business in two key ways.

First and most obvious is the impact on profits: companies must keep
cutting prices to stay in business. The second is more subtle, and
ultimately more devastating. Deflation raises the value of debt on the
balance sheet in relation to stockholders' equity. During the
inflation era, companies knew that when they borrowed money through
bonds and mortgages, they repaid the debts with cheap money. Deflation
reverses that relationship.

No surprise that the most moderate U.S. recession of the century has
produced some of history's biggest bankruptcies. No surprise that
consumers are going bankrupt at record rates.

If the process becomes self-reinforcing, as in Japan, then all
financial assets suffer. Gold shines by comparison.

Gold also shines when financial assets lose their lustre because of
public disillusionment with financial reporting and the ethical
behaviour of Wall Street. With gold (and gold mines), you know what
you get. The collapse of Nasdaq, followed by the bankruptcy of Enron,
have provoked widespread revulsion. Wall Street heavily promoted tech
stocks and Enron, and shattered investors naturally have scorn and
hatred for those shills and mountebanks who fleeced them. Gold, by
comparison, has almost no friends or promoters on Wall Street, so it
naturally looks good by comparison. What is despised and rejected by
organizations you have reason to despise and reject should be OK.

If fears about the integrity of financial reporting depress the stock
market at a time of a strong economy, gold stocks will be stars. If
deflation and doubts about financial honesty combine to produce a new
bear market, then bullion prices will rise sharply, and the stocks
will be the best-performing equity group.

I'm an optimist, so I believe investors should hold no more than six
per cent of their equity portfolio in gold or gold stocks. That said,
gold hasn't been so attractive since just before the stock market
crash of 1987.

Donald Coxe is chairman of Harris Investment Management in Chicago and
Toronto-based Jones Heward Investments.


EOA

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20th Century Graph
This graph depicts the "seasons" of last century's stock market.

http://www.financialsense.com/series2/riders/century.htm

Weekly Money Flows

are updated

http://members.shaw.ca/valueinvestor/Weekly_Money_Flows.html

Bond Anomalies Abound

<<...While stock investors in recent weeks have continued zealously
waging their great debate over the near-future destiny of the US
equity markets, strange things are afoot in the massive bond markets.
  Bond yields, which have been stealthily heading north in the last
month, have now picked up some steam and are appearing on more radars.

As I hammer out this essay on March 14th, the assassinated 30-year
Treasury Bonds still trading in defiance of their widely heralded
demise are yielding an incredible 5.82% and approaching the
psychologically important 6% barrier.  The castrati new so-called
benchmark bonds, 10-year Treasury Notes, are now yielding 5.39%.

These long maturity yields are rising defiantly in the face of
four-decade low yields in the short-end of the yield curve.  90-day
Treasury Bills are only yielding a paltry 1.84%.  These shorter
?risk-free? bonds, of course, are indirectly keyed off the most
brazenly manipulated market in the first world, the Fed-dominated
Federal Funds market.  The Fed Funds rate is running 1.81%, slightly
above Alan Greenspan?s latest artificially low target of 1.75%.

As we first explained in ?Revolt of the Long Bond? last spring, the
unanticipated diversion between short and long interest rates is
becoming increasingly vexing for the Keynesian market manipulators at
the Fed and the diehard Wall Street cheerleaders.  If official
government inflation statistics are to be believed, we are living in a
glorious new utopia where the classical iron link between money supply
explosions and price increases has been miraculously severed.  Rising
long yields on ?risk-free? US government bonds mean bond traders are
selling bonds faster than they are buying them, challenging current
Wall Street mythology on inflation.

Why are the bond traders selling bonds, especially in this golden age
of supposedly non-existent inflation and according to the perma-bulls
the widely-alleged birth of a splendid new bull market in stocks?

If you ask those same perma-bulls who, like mentally-challenged
parrots, repeat the same bullish gibberish every single day regardless
of what the markets are doing or where in the classical long equity
valuation cycle we may find ourselves, they will happily proclaim that
bond traders are selling bonds so they can buy stocks.  We don?t think
it is that simple though.

Bond traders generally operate on a higher plane than stock investors.
  Bond traders, unlike the typical stock investor, are very intelligent
and are forced to pay attention to a huge array of crucial fundamental
factors that intimately affect bond prices and yields.  Stock
investors often buy and sell on pure emotion and fashion, believing
whatever the heck they want to believe, fundamentals be damned.  Bond
traders will be rapidly obliterated if they trade on fantasy rather
than reality, so they strive to really understand what is truly going
on and are far less likely to become emotionally anchored to a certain
short-term market worldview.

Perhaps the fact that elite bond traders are wisely
emotionally-detached from the markets and trade like realists is why
they draw the continuous barrage of venomous hate and malice from the
financial media and Wall Street community.  For instance, the host of
my favorite financial television show, the legendary Louis Rukeyser of
Wall Street Week, often spends some of his entertaining opening
monologue every Friday night attacking bond traders.  I am still a big
fan of Uncle Lou?s even though he continually describes bond
professionals as ?bond ghouls? and claims that the only reason they
exist is to revel in the misery of others.  The talking heads on the
General Electric Propaganda Network, aka CNBC, continually deride bond
professionals as ?bond vigilantes?.

Webster?s defines ?ghoul? as ?an evil demon that feeds on human beings
and preys on corpses?.  Ouch!  ?Vigilante? is defined as ?a person who
takes the law into their own hands? and ?done violently and summarily
without recourse to lawful procedures?.  Wow!  Talk about unrestricted
vitriol from the perma-bulls!  As is typical in history when an
influential group cannot cope with changing conditions of reality, the
perma-bulls in the financial media resort to ad-hominem attacks rather
than discussing why bond yields are truly moving.

Bond traders are not evil demons and they are not lawbreakers!  They
are hard-working elite investment professionals who, just like stock
investors, are trying to zealously preserve and enhance the scarce
capital of their clients.  As we explained in ?Revolt of the Long
Bond?, bond players simply take the opposite side of the coin of
financing capitalism and the American dream.  Rather than choosing
very high risk for potentially high returns through equity ownership,
bond investors loan money to US corporations for a
contractually-guaranteed lower return.  Bond financing of corporations
is probably as important an engine of economic growth as stock
financing.

Because bond investors and bond traders strive to be objective and
search for truth and fundamental reality so they can make superior
capital management decisions, I personally have unlimited respect for
elite bond professionals like Bill Gross and hold them in great
esteem.  It is tragic that the perma-bulls in the financial media
waste so much of their time tastelessly attacking bond professionals
rather than exploring why they are making the decisions they make.

While Wall Street continually belittles the huge and massively
important bond trade, rising long yields are continuing to stretch the
width of the yield curve.  Essentially, the yield curve is simply the
difference between long interest rates and short interest rates.  In
this essay we discuss the ever-evolving yield curve and use the term
?spread? to denote the difference between long rates and short rates.
  We use the word ?spread? rather than ?yield curve? because we are
looking at the delta between 10-year T-notes and 90-day T-bills.

As my whole investing life has been in the era of the venerable King
of Bonds, the 30-year Treasury Bond, I still feel uncomfortable
defining something as a yield curve when the Long Bond is missing.
Just because some Rubin-era US Treasury sycophant tried to brazenly
manipulate long-term interest rates after the 9/11 market dislocations
last October by announcing the death of the Long Bond does not mean
that it will not be resurrected.  Actually, as the legions of
Keynesian socialists in the bloated American government continue to
aggressively spend money they don?t have, I fully expect the 30-year
T-bond to be officially reintroduced in the not-too-distant future as
government financing ?needs? explode.  For now, however, we will
grudgingly use 10-year T-note yields as the long end of the curve for
our spread calculations.

In this essay we will examine the widening spread and ponder some
potential implications from recent developments in the bond
markets...>>

It looks like these boards accept much longer posts. This portion is
over 1100 words and yet the club only used to accept about 500 words
per post so that is a bonus. Except for posts with graphs like this one
it looks like we will be able to post more total story posts.

http://www.safehaven.ca/ZEAL/Zeal031502.htm

If you click the "this is a reply to" link below
you can go all the way back and follow my Progress.

SWEET SPOT
==============

TOTAL INVESTMENT SO-FAR
==========================
(all figures should be * 100 share lot)

(including all former strategies)

-$52.86


TODAY'S ACTIVITY
==================

BOUGHT 1 BMO.TO APRIL $36 PUT @---------$-00.90
================================================
NET GAIN--------------------------------$-00.90


(all commissions included in the price)

TOTAL INVESTMENT SO FAR
========================
(including commissions)

-$52.86
+$00.90
========
-$53.76

TOTAL COMISSIONS SPENT
========================

-$28.94
-$00.30
========
-$29.24

TOTAL INVESTED IN EACH POSITION
================================

BMO.TO
=======

-$34.73
-$00.90
=====
-$35.63

PDG.TO
=======

-$07.14


TOTAL POSITION AS OF TODAY
===========================

BMO
=====

2 BMO.TO JAN 2004 $40 CALL LEAP


2 BMO.TO JAN 2004 $35 PUT LEAP


********************************************

PDG
====

2 PDG.TO JAN 2003 $20 CALL LEAPS
SHORT 1 PDG.TO APR $20 CALL

2 PDG.TO JAN 2003 $15 PUT LEAP
SHORT 2 PDG.TO JULY $15 PUTS

SWEET SPOT
==============

BMO entered the sweet spot again. That is the place right between my
two long positions where no matter which way the stock moves, I should
be able to benefit from shorting in the near future. That being said I
went nekked and have cleared all my BMO shorts in the hope that BMO
will roll soon. My guess is that there will be more downside in this
move because we are at the bottom of the interest rate cycle and rates
should start moving up soon. If so, that will be detrimental to bank
shares like BMO. Before that happens though we could see a continued
pop in the stock and if that is the case I'll be ready to sell the
long calls as well. My next sale will be a July option for the reasons
outlined in the last option corner.

METHODOLOGY FOR THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY INDEX


<<The NAR affordability index measures whether or not a typical family
could qualify for a mortgage loan on a typical home. A typical home is
defined as the national median-priced, existing single-family home as
calculated by NAR. The typical family is defined as one earning the
median family income as reported by the U.S. Bureau of the Census. The
prevailing mortgage interest rate is the effective rate on loans
closed on existing homes from the Federal Housing Finance Board and
HSH Associates, Butler, NJ. These components are used to determine if
the median income family can qualify for a mortgage on a typical home.

       To interpret the indices, a value of 100 means that a family
with the median income has exactly enough income to qualify for a
mortgage on a median-priced home. An index above 100 signifies that
family earning the median income has more than enough income to
qualify for a mortgage loan on a median-priced home, assuming a 20%
down payment. For example, a composite HAI of 120.0 means a family
earning the median family income has 120% of the income necessary to
qualify for a conventional loan covering 80% of a median-priced
existing single-family home. An increase in the HAI, then, shows that
this family is more able to afford the median priced home.

       The calculation assumes a down payment of 20% of the home price
and it assumes a qualifying ratio of 25%. That means the monthly P&I
payment cannot exceed 25% of a the median family monthly income.>>


http://websrv1.realtors.org/Research.nsf/files/Rel0201a.pdf/$FILE/Rel0201a.pdf

Bush's chickens home to roost

<<...Robert Zoellick, the U.S. Trade Representative, wants to make one
thing perfectly clear: His boss, George W. Bush, is a free trader.
"This administration has forged strong free trade credentials," Mr.
Zoellick argued in a Financial Times op-ed two days ago. Those steel
duties of 30% he introduced last week? That's actually proof of how
much Mr. Bush is committed to free trade. By creating trade barriers
to protect a failing industry and applying those duties in a purely
arbitrary manner, Mr. Zoellick claims the United States is in full
compliance with all its trade regulations and obligations. And Heaven
help any country that tries to retaliate against its steel duties,
because that would violate the tenets of free trade that Mr. Bush
holds so dear.

Mr. Zoellick's convoluted explanation of how the United States remains
committed to free trade despite having violated the core principle of
allowing the free flow of goods reads fine, as satire. As actual
policy, it's duplicitous and disgraceful. Mr. Bush wants everyone else
to observe the sanctity of free trade marriages, but retains the right
to sleep with the steel industry if he thinks it will get him
re-elected. Having practised free love, however, he can hardly
complain when his partners start straying as well.

Days after Mr. Bush erected his steel barriers, Russia raised a
chicken wire fence of its own. Russian food inspectors, claiming to be
alarmed about the quality of U.S. chickens -- in particular the
hobgoblins of antibiotics and genetically-modified feed additives --
banned all U.S. poultry imports as of last Sunday. The country that
genetically modified an entire landscape courtesy of a nuclear
meltdown worried about chickens eating GM feed? Whether the Russians
made their case with a straight face or not, this is serious business.
The U.S. poultry industry employs 50% more workers than the steel
industry, and chicken is the top U.S. export to Russia, at nearly
US$700-million per year. It has been estimated that the steel duties
will cost Russia's struggling steel industry US$1-billion.

It is nearly impossible to parse the exact machinations of trade
disputes. Russian diplomats deny they are returning fire on U.S. steel
duties. But that doesn't mean they aren't playing tit-for-tat. Also
this week the European Union's transport commissioner announced that
he will be seeking the right to impose duties on subsidized foreign
(read: U.S.) airlines that land at European airports. The important
point in both cases is that Mr. Bush's ability to fight back has been
retarded since he abandoned his own moral authority on trade to
political expediency. Even if Russia is trying to protect its chicken
industry with spurious health concerns, we now know that Mr. Bush
thinks there is nothing wrong with propping up failing industries at
the expense of trade principles. His role as the global defender of
open borders is hopelessly compromised...>>

http://finance.canada.com/bin/story?StoryId=Cpjf_0d8bmZqYnda4&Topic=Financial_Po\
st&Type=home&Heading=News%20from%20Financial%20Post&BC=Financial%20Post

<<...The Calgary Southwest federal by-election, likely sometime this
spring, will take place in one the most entrepreneurial neighbourhoods
in the country. The oil and gas industry is the top local employer. As
you might expect in Preston Manning's old riding, the Kyoto Protocol
is shaping up as a major by-election issue.

At first, the Tory candidate -- a former aide to Brian Mulroney named
Jim Prentice -- simply avoided the issue. But since Alberta Premier
Ralph Klein joined the anti-Kyoto movement, Kyoto has been the big
news story in town. Every day, another CEO publicly denounces Kyoto.

It all became too much for Mr. Prentice. On Tuesday night he panicked.
"My party is not in favour of ratification [of Kyoto]," he said to
Calgary's A-Channel. Canadian Alliance claims that the PCs support
Kyoto are "a falsehood," he told CTV. "False," he said again on the CBC.

I don't blame Mr. Prentice for disowning the Kyoto Accord. Too many
Calgarians still remember the first National Energy Program to
countenance a second one.

Where do the federal Progressive Conservatives stand on the Kyoto
Accord? Until Tuesday, the answer was crystal clear: The Tories
supported Kyoto-style rationing of oil and gas in Canada. In fact, the
main criticism that Joe Clark and his party have had about Kyoto is
that the Liberals have not implemented it quickly enough.

On Feb. 7, for example, Mr. Clark spoke at a Toronto conference on
global warming. He chastised the Liberals for dragging their feet on
their Red Book promise to reduce fossil fuel use. "Almost nine years
later," Mr. Clark scolded, "Canadians are still waiting for a concrete
strategy to reduce greenhouse gas emissions."

And now that Canada has signed Kyoto, Mr. Clark said, we had better
follow through. "Were we not to come through on our [Kyoto]
commitments," he told the conference, "we would surely face fines or
other financial penalties. More importantly, our reputation as a
reliable, responsible partner in international agreements would be
severely tarnished."...>>

Good luck in the next election Joe, you'll need it

http://finance.canada.com/bin/story?StoryId=Cpjf_0d8bmZqYnda5&Topic=Financial_Po\
st&Type=home&Heading=News%20from%20Financial%20Post&BC=Financial%20Post

Boston Globe/AP
Preliminary approval was given in the Vermont House to a bill
that would permit people with debilitating diseases to relieve
their pain by smoking marijuana. (03/15/02)

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/073/region/House_to_take_up_medical_ma
rij:.shtml

NORML
Parliament's Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs has
announced that it supports efforts by the British Home Office
to downgrade marijuana possession to a non-arrestable offense.
(03/14/02)

http://www.norml.org/news/archives/02-3-14.shtml#story2

"Accurate Readings"

A man goes to a doctor for a physical
checkup.

The nurse starts with certain basic items.
"How much do you weigh?" she asks.

"One-seventy." he says.

The nurse puts him on the scale.

It turns out that his weight is 183.

The nurse asks, "Your height?"

"Five-eleven." he says.

The nurse checks and sees that he's only 5' 8 1/2".

She then takes his blood pressure, and it's very high.

The man explains, "Of course it's high. When I came in here, I was
tall and wiry. Now, I'm short and fat!"



LOL!



"Hope"

A fellow was sitting in the doctor's waiting room, and said to
himself every so often, "Gosh, I hope I'm sick!"

After about the 5th or 6th time, the receptionist couldn't stand it
any longer and asked, "Why in the world would you want to be sick Mr.
Adams?"

The man replied, "I'd hate to be well & feel like this."



ROTFL!

Two widows were visiting in the lounge of the Seniors' Center.

"Well," one said, "Margaret has just cremated her third husband."

"Yeah, that's the way it goes," replied the other widow. "Some of us
can't find a husband, and others have husbands to burn!"



LMAOG!


Good Mornin' everyone!



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Those issues tend to be a distraction when witnessing to unbelievers
GT
so it is always helpful to focus rather on the teachings of Christ and
the reality of His existance. That He proved He was God and the faith
behind what He did and how His followers did are easier to work with.
Once you prove the validity of Christ and how He was God then you can
point to the fact of how He affirmed the Old Testament scriptures. To
understand what God required of His people back in Israel's Old
Testament time requires historical context. God's command to slay all
could have easily been answered by something as simple as the fact
that
the religion of those destroyed could have had a common communicable
disease that was evident even in the animals. You never know. It is
much
easier to start with some of the more solid parts of the facts of
Christianity and then move to the more difficult parts and accept them
on faith. That is how faith works, trusting what we know of the Lord
to
accomplish or explain what we don't currently know

--- In tvxuniversity@y..., profit_of_babble_on <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> well it's about time. I didn't realize we had and was still posting at
> the old location. To read what I posted over there you need to go
> here. It appears they are no longer migrating the messages
>
>
>
>
http://post.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/tvxuniversity/bbs?action=l&tid=tvxuniversity&s\
id=12171972&ft=1
>
> One thing I do appreciate about this new format is that we FINALLY
> have a search function.


it seems the trick is to select 'unwrap lines' along the bottom when
reading and has nothing to do with posting

Test

 
http://post.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/tvxuniversity/bbs?action=l&tid=tvxuniversity&s\
id=12171972&ft=1

I changed the color to make it a little easier to read.
Because you can't make the text bold the sand color in
the background obscures the posts. If the link above in
my test is complete then the trick for long links is not
to select 'wrap text' when you post. Unfortunately, that
messes up the text you've written. There are some workarounds
needed here definitely

well it's about time. I didn't realize we had and was still posting at
the old location. To read what I posted over there you need to go
here. It appears they are no longer migrating the messages



http://post.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/tvxuniversity/bbs?action=l&tid=tvxuniversity&s\
id=12171972&ft=1

One thing I do appreciate about this new format is that we FINALLY
have a search function.

THIS COULD BE THE THE
NAILhttp://www.forbes.com/newswire/2002/03/14/rtr541663.html

PEACE
#DOG12

Hoover Institute
by Robert Zelnick
"On the day Saddam Hussein falls, there will be dancing in the
streets of Baghdad. The country will not implode. Military
analysts will ponder a victory that was less costly than many
projected." (03/18/02)

http://www-hoover.stanford.edu/pubaffairs/we/2002/zelnick_0302.html

American Policy Center
by Henry Lamb
"If the U.N. gets the independent financing it covets, and has
designed in the report of the High Level Panel, the United States
will cease to exist as a sovereign nation. It will become nothing
more than just another state at the mercy of a world government."
(03/13/02)

http://www.americanpolicy.org/un/globaltaxation.htm

One of the things that really bothers me is Bush's increased use of
"I". "I" will not allow this or that. "I'm" going to take action. Not
we. He sounds more and more like an Imperial President.
CC
----------------------------------------------
Washington Post
President Bush says that "all options are on the table" --
including nuclear weapons -- to confront states that threaten to
use weapons of mass destruction. He also issued his strongest
warning to date that his administration plans to take on Iraq's
Saddam Hussein. (03/14/02)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22091-2002Mar13.html

http://pub16.ezboard.com/ftb2kfulltopicfrm1.showMessage?topicID=4657.topic

This illustrates why it is so important to keep the government out of
religion, and religion out of government. In this country we have
great arguments about issues that are on fringe; ten commandments in
gov't buildings, Christmas displays on gov't lawns, teaching creation
in school, etc., but nothing close to what is described here.
Thank the Gods for the wisdom of our forefathers.
CC

--- In tvxuniversity@y..., ckmb54 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I saw these comments on my e-mail .G.T.###### <Every religion has
its
> fundamentalists.  Some fundamentalists are dangerous,
> some are very nice.>
>
> But Islamic fundamentalism is UNIQUE.
>
> We are in the 21st century and it is ACCEPTABLE in Islam to USE THE
> STATE
> to imprison and  even execute those who leave Islam or criticize
> Islamic doctrines while remaining Muslims.
>
> NO nation with a Christian, Jewish, Hindu, or Buddhist majority puts
> people in jail or
> kills them for blasphemy or apostasy - NOT ONE.  Not in Israel, not
> in India, not in Thailand, not in Russia, not in Italy, not in the
> US . . .
>
> In contrast, Pakistan has put Christians in jail for preaching  the
> Gospel - even sentenced some to death! . . . Iran has put people on
> trial and jailed them simply for
> criticizing hijab and other doctrines of Shia Islam . .
> Even "secular" Egypt has put people in jail for CORRECTLY noting the
> PAGAN and HINDU origins of Hajj rituals!
>
> A rabbi in Israel or a Chrsitian minister in the US who asked for
> adoption of CRIMINAL laws  against blasphemy or apostasy would be
> UNIVERSALLY considered a fool by his.her OWN co-religionists . . .
> but a Mullah saying the same thing would find WIDESPREAD support
> among Muslims!
>
> THIS IS ISLAM UNFORTUNATELY!
>
> Thanks, Hale

I saw these comments on my e-mail .G.T.###### > As a Christian, I
had to make apologies for things,
  too.  God alledgedly tells King Saul to attack an
  Amalekite stronghold and kill everyone, even the
  children.  The Quran doesn't say to do that.

  You doubt me?  Read 1st Samuel Chapter 15.
  15:3 "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all
  they have; do not spare them, but KILL BOTH MAN AND
  WOMAN, INFANT AND SUCKLING, ox and sheep, camel and
  ass."  Revised Standard version, ALL CAPS ADDED by me.

  Now, what do you suppose Timothy McVeigh, a militant
  fundamentalist Christian (not all fundamentalist
Christians are militant), thought when he read this?

  How does any a Christian or Jew deal with this verse?

  Saul gets in trouble for not carrying out the command
  to the letter.  I believe the verse is a fabrication,
  myself, because as a Muslim, I would have only killed
  the fighting men.  Non-militant fundamentalists don't
  have a problem with the verse, thought they would not
  do that today.  But, as many non-militant
  fundamentalist evangelicals and pentecostal say, "The
  Bible says it, I believe it, that settles it!".  That
  gives me the creeps!

  God bless,

  Hamza

I can not speak for God. There are many scriptures that can and are
taken out of context.

I saw these comments on my e-mail .G.T.###### <Every religion has its
fundamentalists.  Some fundamentalists are dangerous,
some are very nice.>

But Islamic fundamentalism is UNIQUE.

We are in the 21st century and it is ACCEPTABLE in Islam to USE THE
STATE
to imprison and  even execute those who leave Islam or criticize
Islamic doctrines while remaining Muslims.

NO nation with a Christian, Jewish, Hindu, or Buddhist majority puts
people in jail or
kills them for blasphemy or apostasy - NOT ONE.  Not in Israel, not
in India, not in Thailand, not in Russia, not in Italy, not in the
US . . .

In contrast, Pakistan has put Christians in jail for preaching  the
Gospel - even sentenced some to death! . . . Iran has put people on
trial and jailed them simply for
criticizing hijab and other doctrines of Shia Islam . .
Even "secular" Egypt has put people in jail for CORRECTLY noting the
PAGAN and HINDU origins of Hajj rituals!

A rabbi in Israel or a Chrsitian minister in the US who asked for
adoption of CRIMINAL laws  against blasphemy or apostasy would be
UNIVERSALLY considered a fool by his.her OWN co-religionists . . .
but a Mullah saying the same thing would find WIDESPREAD support
among Muslims!

THIS IS ISLAM UNFORTUNATELY!

Thanks, Hale

An interesting, to me anyway, bit of trivia regarding dam building.
This is the only human activity that I know of that has really had a
long-term impact on the earth. We have slightly slowed the earth's
rotation speed. By capturing huge amounts of water behind dams we have
raised the water level enough to have an effect. Like an ice skater
who extends her arms to slow a spin, or conversely brings her arms in
close to be able to spin faster. Called "The reservoir effect", it is
very small, but measurable.
CC

--- In tvxuniversity@y..., brent_ns wrote:
> China plans IPO for $40b Three Gorges dam<br><a
href=http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/money/story/0,1870,107934,00.htm
l?
target=new>http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/money/story/0,1870,107934,
00.html?</a>

The dreaded Yahooie groups has hit here!..

Man can't they leave well enuff alone!...

Like I said ... Nothin' is free... We may use this site without cost
to us.. But ole Yahooie will make money off of it....By company's
advertisin'!.. DAMN COMMERCIALS!...


That is exactly why I don't watch regular TV!... I ain't into
commercials..!..


Sheeesh....


Gotta meetin' at 10am..



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